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    11 months ago

    I understand what you meant.

    Them taking this approach is guaranteed to create the next extremist group within a few years

    I’d disagree that is guaranteed.

    • Trying to get rid of Hamas => There is a chance to resolve this forever. Maybe, this will fail. Maybe, it won’t.
    • Not doing anything => There is an extremist group (Hamas) and they will attack again, because their main goal is to destroy Israel. That’s what they say.
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      11 months ago

      I think if you understood the Hydra effect, you wouldn’t say that. Yes, it’s guaranteed.

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        11 months ago

        Come on… You compared Hamas with a hydra, not me. All my previous comments are pretty much signalizing that the hydra comparison is bad, because there is a chance to beat Hamas and solve the problem.

        Just because you make that comparison does not make it a fact that trying to get rid of Hamas results in a new extremist organization.

        Either we talk about the conflict between Hamas and Israel or about Greek mythology… 😉

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          11 months ago

          Either we talk about the conflict between Hamas and Israel or about Greek mythology… 😉

          Do you understand I’m talking about fighting extremism and not a lady with snakes for hair? The Hydra effect is a problem in counter extremism.

          I am now completely convinced you don’t undertand what the Hydra effect is at all. Maybe I wasn’t clear, sorry about that…I suggest this excellent video from the Lines on Maps guy.. He is more qualified to talk about this.

          The Hydra effect basically means that for every fighter you kill, two new ones will emerge. Killing the whole family of a young man or women, where do you think that would lead them? That’s because the root cause (oppression of Palestinians) is never solved. In fact, Israel is now making it worse with genocide and ethnic cleansing.

          Causing violence, mayhem, and oppression is what brought Hamas about, and it’s what Israel is doing again to bring more Hamas-like factions about.

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            11 months ago

            not a lady with snakes for hair

            Jesus Christ, that’s Medusa, not Hydra…


            I am now completely convinced you don’t understand what the Hydra effect is at all.

            No, of course not!!!1111 It’s very difficult to understand the word!!!111 Totally impossible to apply the “you slice 1 head off and 2 new ones appear” on the Hamas conflict to get “for every fighter you kill, two new ones will emerge”… Only you are able to do this /s


            The Hydra effect basically means that for every fighter you kill, two new ones will emerge.

            Good job. And now, you need to understand this: I don’t believe, that your theory “WE WILL FOR SURE EXPERIENCE THE HYDRA EFFECT” necessarily applies here!!

            Do you understand that??

            You act like it’s a fact that it’s 100% impossible that Israel could get rid of Hamas and that a new Gaza government and a new Israel government can find a persistent solution. It’s not.


            You can not negotiate a persistent peace with an organization that has the main goal to destroy Israel. Their main goal is not a separate state. Their main goal is to destroy Israel!! Please tell me how you’d negotiate with them…

            Hamas is a pain in the *** for Israel, but also for the civilians in Gaza. If Hamas stays, there won’t be peace and we make sure that even more generations of people die there.

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              11 months ago

              Yeah, you’re right, that is Medusa. I wish your political knowledge was as good as your myth knowledge.

              You don’t believe in this thing expects have studied? Lol good luck to you in life in general.

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                11 months ago

                You don’t believe in this thing expects have studied?

                You believe, there will be peace with a terror organization that wants to destroy Israel?

                There is probably no expert who says that there is a 100% guarantee that there must be a new Hamas after the current Hamas, just because Israel destroys it. That’s in your head. It’s not a fact, not a quote from any expert.

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                  11 months ago

                  Try to answer my questions with an answer and not another question.

                  Violence breeds violence. This is a fact of life, get over it. No one in their right minds fights extremists by genociding a civilian population.