• BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    He should order every ICE agent be stopped and immediately identify themselves. Even if an agent was identified 5 minutes ago, if the mask goes up start the whole process over again

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      He should take a swim in a nuclear reactor and then arrange to be bitten by a Goliath beetle so that he inherits the beetle’s armor, strength, and relative size, so that he is the world’s only half beetle half human, 500ft tall mayor. Then he should legally change his name to the Chewnifax and go do some fucking justice.

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    I mean, that’s cool and all, but the N.Y. Times latching on to stuff like that makes it easier for them to try to smear him as a “radical Muslim antisemite” or whatever and bury stories about his economic populism. When push comes to shove, it’s the latter that working-class New Yorkers care about and that would get him elected.

    I don’t think he’s wrong to take that position re: Netanyahu, but I think it’s possibly a tactical error to let the media bait him into focusing on it instead of hammering on the economic message.

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      18 hours ago

      That’s clearly the NYTs intent in writing this article.

      Do you think New Yorkers will buy the “radical Muslim antisemite” line?

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        Perhaps, but I think his message from the debate was better: The job is to be mayor of a city, there’s no reason the office should have anything at all to do with foreign affairs so long as those affairs stay out of the city.

        Like personally I appreciate calling out the atrocity, but it isn’t the job of the mayor to be neck deep in that either way.

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      The majority of NYC residents would like to see Netanyahu get fucked last I checked. Anti-Israel stuff is immensely popular among democrats in general.

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      I think it’s a tactical error to let the right-wing fascists dictate your policies before there’s even a chance they get enacted.

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      It’s a bad position to take. Not because it’s the wrong thing to do. Netanyahu is undeniably a war criminal and should face justice. It’s a bad position because only the federal government should be making foreign relations decisions. NYC can and should make itself a very uncomfortable place for Netanyahu but actually arresting him is something that the FBI should do. From that standpoint this isn’t different from Texas putting the barriers in the Rio Grande. SCOTUS should have smacked them down hard for that because it usurps authority that the Constitution gives exclusively to the federal government. Of course, the court didn’t smack Texas down on that and it was objectively wrong both constitutionally and morally so maybe the constitution and the rule of law in general don’t really apply anymore.

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    18 hours ago

    Interesting, but given that America isn’t party to the ICC I wonder what legal reason he could provide for this.

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        Perhaps, but there’s the challenge of who gets to declare genocide formally. A city mayor no matter how large probably shouldn’t be able to unilaterally do so when no authority recognized by his nation does so.

        I agree Netanyahu should be arrested, but I just don’t think a city mayor can reasonably unilaterally do so. Certainly from a practical standpoint it’s a nightmare if your own federal government will be at odds over the arrest of a foreign leader.

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          Yeah. I didn’t mean that Mamdani will be able to do it just saying that the genocide convention is a valid legal reason for Netenyahu to be arrested

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        The Geneva convention does not authorize arrests of individuals. That’s what the ICC is for, but the US does not recognize the ICC.

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          The genocide convention require the countries to do all within their power to stop the genocide. What’s more impactful than arresting thr current genocide enabler

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            No, it doesn’t. Countries have no legal obligation to stop something happening outside their borders.

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              Imagine being so confident, yet incorrect.

              You could have taken 2 minutes to look up “genocide convention” to find out that it’s not the Geneva Convention.

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              You clearly don’t know what you are talking about. The genocide convention (not the geneva convention) that the US signed legally obliges them to act regardless of where the genocide is happening. Your logic is ridiculous because it would mean that any country only has an obligation to stop genocide if it occurs within their own borders.

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    It actually makes sense as hasn’t Netanyahu been in New York City several times since October 7th? He’s not welcome there and would be arrested by the NYPD.

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    Fuck yes. We’ve let our colony go rogue and it’s time to arrest the governor and bring him to justice.

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    Eh. Shit like this is just political wordplay.
    No one has ever been a nation leader and arrested in another country on charges before. Except for WW2 in the aftermath.

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      No one has ever been a nation leader and arrested in another country on charges before

      No Ugandan-born Muslim anti-zionist Democratic Socialist has ever been mayor of New York before either. A lack of precedent doesn’t make either impossible no matter how many people used to think so.

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      The fact that the leaders in question knows damn well which countries they will be arrested in probably have something to do with it. If Netanyahu is told he will be arrested if he comes to NY there’s a really good chance that he will not come to NY.

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        He’s already responded to this and said he’d come to NY with Trump.

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          Are you seeing many people traveling to places where they have known arrest orders on them?

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            Considering that Netenyahu became so cocky because the whole world besides the houthis lwt him to anything he want he will probably go there

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              No, because the point is to tell them they’re not welcome. Not being able to go to meetings in the UN in NY would be a big embarrassment for Israel or any other nation.

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                So if he doesn’t show up, or he does and he’s not arrested, and you’ll still point at me as wrong somehow. Cuz it doesn’t fit your tidy world view.

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                  I disagree that barring a world leader from entering your jurisdiction is just political word play as you put it. I’m not sorry at all if that does not fit your world view.

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    I love how people still think the NYT has any credibility. They are shaping the narratives that are driving us into fascism. ALL MEDIA IS LIES. Trust what you see in front of you, organize locally and when you do, don’t use your cell phones!

    But also, if Mamdani really said this, it’s like come on man; don’t make it any harder on yourself, NYC is 10% Jewish, we have more Jews than Jerusalem!

    Fuck Bibi with a broken bottle, but wait till after November to announce you want to do it

    Edit, corrected data