• MyBrainHurts@lemmy.ca
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    8 days ago

    You can literally get arrested for social media posts in Europe.

    And then, as has happened for those cases, you get a trial.

    The people arrested in El Salvador do not get trials. To conflate the two situations is either ignorant or simply childish.

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      8 days ago

      So if someone gets a trial and is found guilty for making bad posts you do not believe their civil liberties were violated, is that right?

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        7 days ago

        No.

        I am saying that a country with a functional judiciary is categorically different than one without.

        Saying democratic countries with laws you dislike are the same as a country where the state is unrestrained by law is utter nonsense.

        Edit: To put it very simply, in both places you could be arrested for social media posts. In El Salvador, that could be the last anyone hears of you. In the other, you have a lawyer, a fair trial and if you lose, you still have some human rights.

        I know which I’d prefer.

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          7 days ago

          “”“Democratic”“” doing a lot of work there.

          These aren’t democratically popular laws and the people never voted to have these laws put into place. These laws were imposed onto them because their democracy is limited by what they are allowed to even vote for - in the end, there is still a ruling class.

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            7 days ago

            Arguing there’s no difference between a regime that disappears citizens and a flawed western democracy is mind bendingly dumb.

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              7 days ago

              The west is literally commiting a genocide. They are mass disappearing people into the afterlife. Mind boggling that in 2025 we still have incredulous libs who believe in western exceptionalism.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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              The regimes that disappears citizens are western “democracies”. The only thing that’s mind bendingly dumb here is fact that you’re evidently unaware of this fact.

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                    7 days ago

                    No.

                    I am saying that a country with a functional judiciary is categorically different than one without.

                    Saying democratic countries with laws you dislike are the same as a country where the state is unrestrained by law is utter nonsense.

                    Edit: To put it very simply, in both places you could be arrested for social media posts. In El Salvador, that could be the last anyone hears of you. In the other, you have a lawyer, a fair trial and if you lose, you still have some human rights.

                    I know which I’d prefer.