Why do Brits and Americans have a special term instead of just using Immigrant?

          • MudMan@fedia.io
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            9 days ago

            It was used colloquially, for sure… by rich corporate migrants that didn’t want to self-ID as migrants. Or at least by the HR people and corpo consultants handling the international relocations and avoding the taboo word.

            Which is what the previous post is saying and it certainly matches my experience as one of the “expats”. I always self-identified as a migrant myself, though.

            • snooggums@lemmy.world
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              9 days ago

              I’ve never heard the term used for anyone with dark skin or from anywhere other than the US, Canada, or western Europe.

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                I’ve definitely seen it used for non-white coworkers and coworkers from other regions, but typically in the context of relocating for corporate work.

                But then, I worked for a western corpo but with a ridiculously diverse group of people during that time.

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                  I’ve seen it used in media far more than in person. Mostly for soldiers that stuck around after wars wound down or wealthy people buying fancy homes in tropical locations.

                  The people I’ve worked with in tech from Scotland and England who have lived in the US long term but without becoming citizens don’t even use the term. Honestly most people don’t really use labels, just refer to someone in tech being ‘from a country’ when it comes up whether they became citizens or not.

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                    We had enough of them at a time that “the expats” was a relevant group of people you needed to refer to for specific things. Language lessons, HR support, what have you. I definitely heard the anglo guys refer to themselves as that frequently, and that then became the word people used.

                    I had a chip on my shoulder about telling people I was a migrant, but I was pretty alone on that. The anglo guys mostly said they were “expats”.

        • Ogmios@sh.itjust.works
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          9 days ago

          Do you seriously need someone to explain to you why there are multiple words with similar meanings in the world?

          • lime!@feddit.nu
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            9 days ago

            well when you challenge an opinion you usually offer an alternative opinion.

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              Usually. But if the premise is particularly stupid I might choose to prompt the speaker to actually think about what they’ve said for a moment.

              Or you could just read any of the numerous other comments here which offer other explanations.

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                9 days ago

                i did think about it and it matches my experience. i will read the rest of the thread.

                Edit: i have now read the rest of the thread. nobody seems to agree and i see no sources.

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            9 days ago

            They aren’t used interchangeably so this implies a different definition or at least distinct connotations.

    • Kilometers_OBrien@startrek.website
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      9 days ago

      Or it’s a term tied to tax status that is easier to say than explaining taxation status for those living abroad 🤷

      No, it’s all just a big racist conspiracy, don’t bother looking up any definitions or anything lmao

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      9 days ago

      To be fair, they are pretty bad, unless you do like America and only allow people with certain skills and intelligence. Allowing refugees from war torn countries is very nice, but ultimately brings that war to the country itself and changes the culture into something very different.

      Source: Sweden.

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        9 days ago

        Bro skilled people wanting to become US residents or citizens have to wait an absurd amount of time to even have a chance

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            8 days ago

            No, it’s because there’s a lottery system that has been backlogged for decades. US immigration is such a bad process that skilled people go to Canada instead because the government there actually values those people.

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              Ah ok. Yeah I guess they don’t make it a priority for some reason.