Defence agency says Moscow is using the protests in Stockholm to stir tensions between Arab countries and the west

  • HERRAX@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I’m sorry, but your parallel shows how you’ve got this wrong.

    It’s ok to demonstrate against Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and even countries like Russia, China, or USA.

    It is NOT ok to demonstrate against Muslims, Jews, bhuddists, or Russians, Chinese, or Americans.

    The KKK marching in white robes are classed as hate speech, because they hate a group of people.

    Burning the Qur’an is not hate speech because it shows a hatred for Islam, not Muslims.

    If we start to ban stuff like this we’re heading towards a slippery slope we don’t want to go down.

    HOWEVER, I believe you could see it more as hate speech when it’s obviously directed at, for example, Turkish people when you burn it outside their embassy. And that’s what this discussion should be about, because it’s a whole different thing burning the Qur’an at “plattan” in central Stockholm compared to outside a countries’ embassy. I haven’t paid much attention to Rasmussen either, but if his intent is “Muslims are bad” instead of “limit amount of refugees”, I believe that can be classified as hate speech as well.

    • bloodfart@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      1 year ago

      It’s cool, I can burn the Quran, I don’t hate Muslims, I just hate Islam, the religion and history of all Muslims. Where am I gonna burn the Quran you ask? Why, in front of a mosque, in a predominantly Muslim neighborhood or in front of the embassy of a Muslim nation. Don’t worry though, I’m doing it to show that I hate Islam, not Muslims. Pay no attention to my extensive history of speaking in racial epithets toward muslim people, my association with far right anti Muslim groups or my political party that explicitly opposes allowing muslims to live in the country. Now please provide me a police escort so I’m not torn limb from limb in the process. Why no, I certainly did not intend to incite, what ever could have given you that idea?

      This is like saying people should be able to burn crosses because theyre doing it to show that they hate Christianity (or in the case of a kkk offshoot that really existed: that it’s part of their Christian worship service). No one is out here burning crosses for any reason other than to signal hate. No one is burning Qurans for any reason other than to signal hate.

      We can easily prove this by looking for someone burning a Quran who isn’t aligned with a far right party that has anti Muslim ideology, hasn’t spoken out against muslims and isn’t funded by groups that are.

      There of course are none, because everyone burning Qurans is doing it as a form of hate speech.