And not just here. Something like 3/4 of children in India are victims of sexual assault. This is really a world-wide problem that has always been there and only relatively recently are people more largely paying attention and thinking it is wrong.
People vote with their emotions and not rationally. Someone will put up an article and people will downvote the post because they don’t like what the article is talking about, even though that’s not the fault of the person who posted it.
Also, reading the responses you got, it does seem that some people took personal offense as if I were saying that nobody cared about this. Obviously people do and always have. Implying that I am arguing that nobody cared is a pretty uncharitable interpretation and may reflect the mental state of the people responding.
Societies as a whole haven’t really cared, before, and that’s my point–it’s “Old Boys Club” and misogynistic nonsense that finally is being reviewed by more. Humans as a group have over the past 20 years or so started to take this very seriously in a way that didn’t happen before, and is the cause of the various scandals of rape kits not being tested, etc.
The wording kind of implies that it’s only recently that people started seeing rape as a bad thing. I would argue otherwise.
I think that the people who were victims of it over the past centuries probably already thought it was a bad thing, along with anyone who cared about them. It’s not a new revelation. People have been trying to spread awareness about this happening for multiple generations.
It’s an extremely low moral bar, to be honest. Some actions are indefensible and inexcusable. Anyone who had even half of a heart would have still cared about this happening over a hundred years ago.
It’s caring about your mother/sister/daughter/friend/teacher/nurse/mechanic/niece/neighbour/cousin/welder/artist/etc. If you care at all about any of them, this should have always been important to you. It’s wanting people to not suffer.
It would be like saying that people only recently started caring when someone murders innocent people. It’s always been terrible, and the offenders have always been terrible.
The wording kind of implies that it’s only recently that people started seeing rape as a bad thing
I mean, it’s true. In most countries of the world, marital rape was both tolerated and legal 100 years ago.
It’s always been terrible, and the offenders have always been terrible.
The comment above doesn’t imply otherwise though. You may argue that most people in the past had shit ethical opinions without agreeing with those opinions.
marital rape was both tolerated and legal 100 years ago.
In the US, this argument only started to fall apart in the early 1990s when a big case came into the public light. People argued that legally a husband can’t rape and has marital rights. As I recall, the idiot was still convicted and this was a big shift in public perception.
People might have not collectively cared, specifically and especially the people who likely didn’t see half of the population as human.
The victims have always cared, was my initial main point. To claim otherwise would be to also deny the sentience of those people.
Idk if you can see it on your instance/browser, but I didn’t vote on the comment.
Added: I agree that people in general have had some level of shitty ethics though, in one way or another. Especially historically. I didn’t see it was you asking either, sorry about that lol.
And not just here. Something like 3/4 of children in India are victims of sexual assault. This is really a world-wide problem that has always been there and only relatively recently are people more largely paying attention and thinking it is wrong.
Why was this downvoted?
People vote with their emotions and not rationally. Someone will put up an article and people will downvote the post because they don’t like what the article is talking about, even though that’s not the fault of the person who posted it.
Also, reading the responses you got, it does seem that some people took personal offense as if I were saying that nobody cared about this. Obviously people do and always have. Implying that I am arguing that nobody cared is a pretty uncharitable interpretation and may reflect the mental state of the people responding.
Societies as a whole haven’t really cared, before, and that’s my point–it’s “Old Boys Club” and misogynistic nonsense that finally is being reviewed by more. Humans as a group have over the past 20 years or so started to take this very seriously in a way that didn’t happen before, and is the cause of the various scandals of rape kits not being tested, etc.
The wording kind of implies that it’s only recently that people started seeing rape as a bad thing. I would argue otherwise.
I think that the people who were victims of it over the past centuries probably already thought it was a bad thing, along with anyone who cared about them. It’s not a new revelation. People have been trying to spread awareness about this happening for multiple generations.
It’s an extremely low moral bar, to be honest. Some actions are indefensible and inexcusable. Anyone who had even half of a heart would have still cared about this happening over a hundred years ago.
It’s caring about your mother/sister/daughter/friend/teacher/nurse/mechanic/niece/neighbour/cousin/welder/artist/etc. If you care at all about any of them, this should have always been important to you. It’s wanting people to not suffer.
It would be like saying that people only recently started caring when someone murders innocent people. It’s always been terrible, and the offenders have always been terrible.
I mean, it’s true. In most countries of the world, marital rape was both tolerated and legal 100 years ago.
The comment above doesn’t imply otherwise though. You may argue that most people in the past had shit ethical opinions without agreeing with those opinions.
In the US, this argument only started to fall apart in the early 1990s when a big case came into the public light. People argued that legally a husband can’t rape and has marital rights. As I recall, the idiot was still convicted and this was a big shift in public perception.
People might have not collectively cared, specifically and especially the people who likely didn’t see half of the population as human.
The victims have always cared, was my initial main point. To claim otherwise would be to also deny the sentience of those people.
Idk if you can see it on your instance/browser, but I didn’t vote on the comment.
Added: I agree that people in general have had some level of shitty ethics though, in one way or another. Especially historically. I didn’t see it was you asking either, sorry about that lol.
I don’t know, I asked because I don’t see any good reason worth downvoting. Thanks for replying tho.
Did you see the edit? It might have taken a bit to update the change. I noticed and added a bit at the end after removing that part lol
Thank you for replying to