Honest question, but isn’t that kinda disrespectful tp Judaism? They are now Jewish, they don’t believe on the Jewish beliefs, are not the hat religious?
not because they aren’t Jewish, I welcome everyone to visit that place (just wait for apartheid to end before you go there), but because they are using the most religious place as a photo-op to appease genocidal lobbyists.
Can we PLEASE PLEASE stop treating judaism like it’s a special religion? I can mock christians all day, every day, why the different treatment for jews?
rule of thumb. it’s ok to punch upwards and laterally in comedy,
given that Christianity is basically the default state religion in most developed countries, making fun of it is sort of punching upwards.
but unless you’re part of the minority, it’s likely you’ll say some really stupid stuff if you make fun of said minority and it’ll likely sound hateful and ignorant.
and to make it clear. those politicians are zionists, they are doing it to appease their AIPAC donor. they are not Jewish and do not support jews or their communities. look how the only loud antizionist politician in the US has the support of his Jewish constituents.
yes, the reason to be sensitive about Judaism is the robust history and present of oppression Jews have experienced. It’s unfortunate that Israel uses this as a basis of dismissing legitimate criticism of their crimes as anti-Semitism.
For comparison, imagine a Black ethno-state committing genocide (e.g. like in Ethiopia) and then dismissing critics as merely racists.
I would say judaism should be seen as at least as special islam and christianity since it’s an abrahamic religion and rarer than both. So if you’re okay to say that neither of those are special, only then is it consistent to say that judaism is not special.
I don’t mean it as it because Judaism is an special religion. If someone that is not catholic or Muslim goes in a performative confession or migration to the Mecca I would think is disrespectful too.
Probably something about millions of them being tortured and killed in concentration camps that makes mocking the Jewish people kinda taboo.
For the most part, they’ve been pretty chill about the whole thing, frankly… But those cuts run deeeep. I’m not Jewish, and even I’m disgusted by how they were rounded up and slaughtered like cattle for no reason other than being who they are.
The biggest issue that I think you’re going to face is that most people can’t differentiate between the Jewish faith and the Jewish people (who may or may not believe in the Jewish faith).
Generally, I don’t think that making fun of the faith is any more or less taboo than poking fun at Christians or Catholics or whatever… But making fun of the Jewish people, is generally a no fly zone.
Since people lack the intelligence, awareness, and shits to give, in order to see that being Jewish and believing in the Jewish faith are separate. So if you make fun of one, you’re making fun of both.
Edit: let me back up for a second to say: I’m just trying to explain the behaviour. I am neither Jewish, nor a fan of the Jewish people, nor do I have any strong feelings against them per-se. This message is only discussing how others tend to see the Jewish people/faith/whatever. It does not, in whole or in part, express how I feel about anything at all, ever, for any reason.
Oh, I don’t think that’s taboo at all. That’s basically the common fare.
My entire point is that people will conflate mocking the Jewish religion, for mocking the Jewish people; which will get them up on a high horse and unhappy and/or angry with you for being antisemitic.
Stop conflating Israel’s atrocities and zionism in general with Judaism and Jewish people. It 1) plays right into Israel’s strategy and 2) is, or at the very least begets, antisemitism.
82% of the Jewish population supports what the Zionists are doing in Gaza. Fuck Israel and fuck any feelings they have about being mocked. They don’t deserve to be protected by the world.
Trump’s approval rating is listed at 35%. Was I, an American, ever polled on this? No. Am I rejecting it outright because clearly based on my own experience the sample size was not 100%? Nope.
If the Jewish population, especially those living in Israel, don’t want to be lumped in with genocide, they can do something about it. Same as Americans who don’t want to be lumped in with those committing the destruction of the American country. I’m lumped in until I do something about it, and that’s fair. Want a good name? Make it.
Um, ok, but you didn’t say the Jewish population of where. Israel? The US? The world? Pretty useless to throw out a number without clarifying that. I guess what I should’ve said is ‘what, they asked a representative sample of every Jewish population or community on the planet?’
Also ‘an approval rating of x’ means ‘x% of POLLED Americans approve’, NOT ‘x% of Americans approve’. Statistics are misleading when you use imprecise language like that.
Probably. I’m not going to argue about what’s happening over there.
People seem to have a lot of opinions on it and the only strong feelings I have about it are that people should stop killing eachother because grown men who are supposed to be leaders of their respective nations, cannot make peace because they’re too childish to have sympathy, empathy, and any shreds of humanity to not starve, bomb, kill, maim, or otherwise destroy eachother.
The reasons why they’re doing what they’re doing, IMO, are not as important as the lives they’re ending in the process.
Probably something about millions of them being tortured and killed in concentration camps that makes mocking the Jewish people kinda taboo.
Holocaust survivors are few and far between but the zionists keep milking that cow (neglecting the fact the nazis didn’t target only jews).
Palestine has been suffering their own continued holocaust for over 70 years, perpetrated by the zionists.
Yeah people conflate race, culture, ethnicity, religion and what not into “being jew” because they themselves do that, so that they can claim any criticism is antisemitism.
You mean because Islam is the only religion which the West actively spreads discriminatory propaganda against on their mainstream media because the countries they colonize are primarily Islamic?
Honest question, but isn’t that kinda disrespectful tp Judaism? They are now Jewish, they don’t believe on the Jewish beliefs, are not the hat religious?
I’m Jewish, and I think it is.
not because they aren’t Jewish, I welcome everyone to visit that place (just wait for apartheid to end before you go there), but because they are using the most religious place as a photo-op to appease genocidal lobbyists.
Can we PLEASE PLEASE stop treating judaism like it’s a special religion? I can mock christians all day, every day, why the different treatment for jews?
rule of thumb. it’s ok to punch upwards and laterally in comedy,
given that Christianity is basically the default state religion in most developed countries, making fun of it is sort of punching upwards.
but unless you’re part of the minority, it’s likely you’ll say some really stupid stuff if you make fun of said minority and it’ll likely sound hateful and ignorant.
and to make it clear. those politicians are zionists, they are doing it to appease their AIPAC donor. they are not Jewish and do not support jews or their communities. look how the only loud antizionist politician in the US has the support of his Jewish constituents.
yes, the reason to be sensitive about Judaism is the robust history and present of oppression Jews have experienced. It’s unfortunate that Israel uses this as a basis of dismissing legitimate criticism of their crimes as anti-Semitism.
For comparison, imagine a Black ethno-state committing genocide (e.g. like in Ethiopia) and then dismissing critics as merely racists.
Because the Catholic ethnostate exists with the consent of Italy lmao
I would say judaism should be seen as at least as special islam and christianity since it’s an abrahamic religion and rarer than both. So if you’re okay to say that neither of those are special, only then is it consistent to say that judaism is not special.
I don’t mean it as it because Judaism is an special religion. If someone that is not catholic or Muslim goes in a performative confession or migration to the Mecca I would think is disrespectful too.
Probably something about millions of them being tortured and killed in concentration camps that makes mocking the Jewish people kinda taboo.
For the most part, they’ve been pretty chill about the whole thing, frankly… But those cuts run deeeep. I’m not Jewish, and even I’m disgusted by how they were rounded up and slaughtered like cattle for no reason other than being who they are.
The biggest issue that I think you’re going to face is that most people can’t differentiate between the Jewish faith and the Jewish people (who may or may not believe in the Jewish faith).
Generally, I don’t think that making fun of the faith is any more or less taboo than poking fun at Christians or Catholics or whatever… But making fun of the Jewish people, is generally a no fly zone.
Since people lack the intelligence, awareness, and shits to give, in order to see that being Jewish and believing in the Jewish faith are separate. So if you make fun of one, you’re making fun of both.
Edit: let me back up for a second to say: I’m just trying to explain the behaviour. I am neither Jewish, nor a fan of the Jewish people, nor do I have any strong feelings against them per-se. This message is only discussing how others tend to see the Jewish people/faith/whatever. It does not, in whole or in part, express how I feel about anything at all, ever, for any reason.
Since when is mocking any religion taboo? You guys have been following the wrong comedians.
Oh, I don’t think that’s taboo at all. That’s basically the common fare.
My entire point is that people will conflate mocking the Jewish religion, for mocking the Jewish people; which will get them up on a high horse and unhappy and/or angry with you for being antisemitic.
Ah fair, thanks for clarifying!
I think whatever ship protected them sailed with all the genocide they’re committing.
Stop conflating Israel’s atrocities and zionism in general with Judaism and Jewish people. It 1) plays right into Israel’s strategy and 2) is, or at the very least begets, antisemitism.
82% of the Jewish population supports what the Zionists are doing in Gaza. Fuck Israel and fuck any feelings they have about being mocked. They don’t deserve to be protected by the world.
82% of the Jewish population of what, earth? Like, they asked everyone?
Trump’s approval rating is listed at 35%. Was I, an American, ever polled on this? No. Am I rejecting it outright because clearly based on my own experience the sample size was not 100%? Nope.
If the Jewish population, especially those living in Israel, don’t want to be lumped in with genocide, they can do something about it. Same as Americans who don’t want to be lumped in with those committing the destruction of the American country. I’m lumped in until I do something about it, and that’s fair. Want a good name? Make it.
Um, ok, but you didn’t say the Jewish population of where. Israel? The US? The world? Pretty useless to throw out a number without clarifying that. I guess what I should’ve said is ‘what, they asked a representative sample of every Jewish population or community on the planet?’
Also ‘an approval rating of x’ means ‘x% of POLLED Americans approve’, NOT ‘x% of Americans approve’. Statistics are misleading when you use imprecise language like that.
Probably. I’m not going to argue about what’s happening over there.
People seem to have a lot of opinions on it and the only strong feelings I have about it are that people should stop killing eachother because grown men who are supposed to be leaders of their respective nations, cannot make peace because they’re too childish to have sympathy, empathy, and any shreds of humanity to not starve, bomb, kill, maim, or otherwise destroy eachother.
The reasons why they’re doing what they’re doing, IMO, are not as important as the lives they’re ending in the process.
Holocaust survivors are few and far between but the zionists keep milking that cow (neglecting the fact the nazis didn’t target only jews).
Palestine has been suffering their own continued holocaust for over 70 years, perpetrated by the zionists.
Yeah people conflate race, culture, ethnicity, religion and what not into “being jew” because they themselves do that, so that they can claim any criticism is antisemitism.
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You mean because Islam is the only religion which the West actively spreads discriminatory propaganda against on their mainstream media because the countries they colonize are primarily Islamic?
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Which one killed 6 million Jews in Europe again?
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Haha https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/opinion/380751/the-nazis-were-christians-and-adolf-hitler-was-not-an-atheist/
But forget about Hitler. Who invented Pogroms?
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*Christianity
¿Porque no los dos?
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Depends who I’m talking to, because I usually curse one of them for their religion being shitty and backward
Paying fealty to your bosses and larping as piety never goes out of style in US politics.