People sometimes assume religious traditions’ ideas about gender have always been conservative and unchanging.
In many cases, “conservative” views are actually new! Conservatisms always claim to stand for the values of the past, but they quite often make up a past that didn’t actually occur.
But muh white Jesus
case in point : wahhabism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism#Criticism_by_other_Muslims
I always interpreted the “don’t be gay” Bible thing to mean “if you’re not gay, don’t pretend to be” kinda thing. So I’ve always thought what the Bible says is wrong is to not accept your sexuality & try to change it.
I don’t think the bible says “don’t be gay”, I think it says something like “thou shalt not lay with a man as with a woman - that is an abomination”.
That just means not to have PIV sex. No biggy - gay men have a tendency to avoid that.
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A lot of “new” religions like Christianity were all about maximizing reproduction because it’s easiest to indoctrinate children.
Which leads to those religions calling anything that didn’t result in children a sin.
According to the same religious laws against LGBT, masterbation and oral/anal are just as bad.
But they can’t even give up blowjobs and expect everyone else to follow just some parts of someone else religious rules.
I thought Christianity is like that because it was based on Judaism, and Judaism is like that because the Hebrews kept getting killed. Hard to keep a people if they don’t reproduce and you are constantly enslaved or at war.
Modern Christianity seems to prohibit abortion. Historical and modern Judaism seems fine with abortion.
The King James Bible actually gives advice on how to abort a baby if it was conceived out of wedlock. Not to mention all the time it said life begins at the first breath. It seems to be more about controlling women than anything else.
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The idea about breath is common in the old testament, Adam for example was given the “breath of life” and that was the moment he was considered alive. Just like the phrase “know in your heart” indicated that they believed human consciousness resided in the chest, they also thought breath was the indicator of life.
The Numbers text was supposedly a test from God to see if a wife had been unfaithful, and that’s what Christians will no doubt claim about it, but in reality it’s instructions on how to create a poison that WILL cause a miscarriage and then claim that it’s God telling them she was unfaithful.
The one verse they use to support pro life isn’t even an actual doctrinal idea. It’s a poem from the book of Proverbs where the prophet Jeremiah was singing about how God had a plan for his life from the very beginning. Nothing about it is intended to be used as a medical interpretation about where and how life starts.
Judaism isn’t really fine with abortion. Just allows it in certain situations, especially if the mothers health in in danger.
Judaism believes the soul enters the body when the body takes its first breath, where Christianity believes the soul enters at conception.
Ah yes, we know of the TumTum gender as well https://imgur.com/gallery/CKLmGQF
