• pooperNickel@lemm.ee
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      No no you see Linkerbaan is a freedom fighter and as such, is willing to make the required sacrifices. They’re willing to sacrifice Palestinians in order to “help Palestinians”. Definitely not relevant that they suggest voting for a candidate with ties to Russia.

      They’re just more dedicated than you, man. Plus, how are the Democrats supposed to learn any lessons if we don’t human-sacrifice Palestinians to Trump? They’ll just think we’re not serious if we don’t.

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        You should blame the people using those weapons.

        A Swedish made TEC-9 was used to kill Columbine students. That doesn’t make Sweden responsible for the Columbine massacre.

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          lmao, this would be like if the Columbine shooter had already killed a bunch of kids, and then Sweden handed him a bunch more guns and ammunition and said “but don’t you use it to kill kids, ok?”

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          Right but Sweden also didn’t give the Columbine shooter the weapon after they said “I’m gunna kill all these people”. Why do you think those situations are at all close? And do you really think people aren’t blaming Israel?

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            do you really think people aren’t blaming Israel?

            OP does, but only secondarily. They always present it like the US is the primary party to blame.

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                    No one is “justifying” anything. Bad faith argument

                    An opinion piece and a sketchy blog aren’t really the type of sources I was looking for. To make this bold claim, you’d think you had something like an official in government in either country at least implying its truth

                    People who argue against you don’t have to be rabid genocide lovers. Typically they are just disagreeing with implied conclusions. Such as “the Democrats are the real ones to blame here [so don’t vote for them]”

                    Edit: you totally sidestepped the point I made. Regardless if the US bears some responsibility here, OP constantly says they are primarily responsible, which indicates a specific intention. One that people are upset about. But y’all pretend everyone against that intent supports genocide

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              Do you know their whole history(you may, I don’t know)? This is just one post and it’s just a link to an article.

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                Look at OP’s history. 10 months of posting many times a day, always about this topic, very often laying all the blame on democrats and sometimes advocating for Jill Stein. I’ve called their shit many times, they always deflect.

                Yeah, I know a lot about their history as far as online posters go.

                Edit: don’t bother covering for them. I won’t respond. Just remembered you from before.

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                  Their views on voting third party are wrong. But to act like the Democratic administration isn’t the being complicit in by militarily funding an ongoing genocide and has no blame is straight up untrue, at the very least from the perspective of international law. Democratic voters advocating for their administration/ representatives to stop funding a genocide is both moral and democratic

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                    … Ok. Way to pretend to get it but then make up shit I didn’t say to argue against.

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            Sweden is still selling weapons to Americans. Americans are still using them to shoot each other.

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              In this comparison, Sweden isn’t “selling” weapons to “Americans”. It’d be more like Sweden was gifting guns directly to the shooter, right after that shooter had already killed a bunch of kids.

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                The IDF is not an individual. The US provides arms to Israeli soldiers just as Sweden provides arms to American civilians. The US is not identifying individual soldiers who have killed Palestinians.

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                  Are we suggesting IDF soldiers are unaccountable to the IDF or Israel? Are we suggesting the Israeli genocide is just a bunch of rogue Israeli civilians acting on their own volition?

                  What a weird line of defense, comparing war crimes committed by a nation’s military to mass shootings committed by unaffiliated civilian terrorists acting on their own.

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                    I’m suggesting that the one responsible for a killing is the one who pulled the trigger. Or in the case of the military, the one who gave the order.