Scientists have been predicting the end of the world coming very soon for many decades now, t
You seem like you’re out of the loop, because that is an incredibly simplified and incorrect statement.
Scientists have been predicting that global temperatures would sharply rise due to fossil fuel use, and they have. We are currently passing the 1.5°c threshold.
They’ve been predicting that forest fires, hurricanes, storms, flooding, etc would get significantly worse, and they have.
They’re clearly not making shit up:
And you seem to be missing the fact that all of this is dependent on fossil fuel use and policy, neither of which are easy to predict. So the best that can be offered in terms of predictions is explaining what will happen with the current status quo. And the current status quo will lead to billions dead, with billions of migrants.
Do you know where those migrants will try to come? They’re gonna try and come here. You conservatives are always complaining about people showing up on the border. And it’s only going to get worse the longer conservatives ignore the science. Over the next few decades, don’t go complaining it’s the fault of progressives that they’re millions of people try to cross the border because their homes were made uninhabitable.
Set realistic goals and expectations about what we can do as a society to combat climate
That’s what they’re doing.
Being realistic, we need massive changes to avoid everything from going to shit. For decades the free market has failed to solve the problem, we need more than just thoughts and prayers.
We need to end fossil fuel subsidies and instead give that money towards renewable. And we need to do it yesterday.
without trying to scare the average Joe into thinking that the gas-fueled car they drive to work in is going to cause the world to spontaneously combust
I disagree with your last sentence. The only reason climate change reaches this point is because humanity doesn’t fear climate change enough because we couldn’t comprehend the impact, until recently of course. I’m pretty sure scientists had warned us since the 19s when humanity started to capitalize fuel but no action was taken. What else can they do except to spread fear? And scientists already provide solutions for climate change long ago, but people can only see short term profit, and ignore the damage that can be caused by the profit in the long term, since humans don’t live long enough to care for the long term except for the younger generation which will face the consequences i guess.
The sane approach is to phase out fossil fuels as quickly as humanly possible.
Meanwhile republicans are too busy defending the EPA, giving more subsidies to the oil industry, and spreading climate disinformation.
Our grandchildren won’t have a habitable world if we don’t do something about it. If you didn’t like people being “extreme” over this, then we should have done something about it half a century ago when the oil industry learned it was a problem.
Given that your response to “we need to do fix this as quickly as possible” is a 3 paragraph doomerism rant, it sounds like there isn’t anything that I could possibly say to change your mind.
You aren’t immune to propaganda, and evidently that especially goes for oil lobby propaganda.
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That is in no way accurate. Bible thumper don’t bring scientific evidence to the table, whereas scientists do.
What should they instead do, completely ignore the crisis? How is that responsible?
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You seem like you’re out of the loop, because that is an incredibly simplified and incorrect statement.
Scientists have been predicting that global temperatures would sharply rise due to fossil fuel use, and they have. We are currently passing the 1.5°c threshold.
They’ve been predicting that forest fires, hurricanes, storms, flooding, etc would get significantly worse, and they have.
They’re clearly not making shit up:
And you seem to be missing the fact that all of this is dependent on fossil fuel use and policy, neither of which are easy to predict. So the best that can be offered in terms of predictions is explaining what will happen with the current status quo. And the current status quo will lead to billions dead, with billions of migrants.
Do you know where those migrants will try to come? They’re gonna try and come here. You conservatives are always complaining about people showing up on the border. And it’s only going to get worse the longer conservatives ignore the science. Over the next few decades, don’t go complaining it’s the fault of progressives that they’re millions of people try to cross the border because their homes were made uninhabitable.
Is that a joke?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
Name one time this has happened.
Lmao
https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/17/do-scientists-agree-on-climate-change/
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That’s what they’re doing.
Being realistic, we need massive changes to avoid everything from going to shit. For decades the free market has failed to solve the problem, we need more than just thoughts and prayers.
We need to end fossil fuel subsidies and instead give that money towards renewable. And we need to do it yesterday.
This is a strawman.
I disagree with your last sentence. The only reason climate change reaches this point is because humanity doesn’t fear climate change enough because we couldn’t comprehend the impact, until recently of course. I’m pretty sure scientists had warned us since the 19s when humanity started to capitalize fuel but no action was taken. What else can they do except to spread fear? And scientists already provide solutions for climate change long ago, but people can only see short term profit, and ignore the damage that can be caused by the profit in the long term, since humans don’t live long enough to care for the long term except for the younger generation which will face the consequences i guess.
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The sane approach is to phase out fossil fuels as quickly as humanly possible.
Meanwhile republicans are too busy defending the EPA, giving more subsidies to the oil industry, and spreading climate disinformation.
Our grandchildren won’t have a habitable world if we don’t do something about it. If you didn’t like people being “extreme” over this, then we should have done something about it half a century ago when the oil industry learned it was a problem.
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Given that your response to “we need to do fix this as quickly as possible” is a 3 paragraph doomerism rant, it sounds like there isn’t anything that I could possibly say to change your mind.
You aren’t immune to propaganda, and evidently that especially goes for oil lobby propaganda.
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Everything you brought up is a oil lobby talking point.
Anybody who tells you the climate situation is simple is lying to you.
We don’t need to fuck things up, at least for now.
Fine, I’ll respond to your initial comment.
I agree we should prosecute those bible thumpers.
You do know that the reason we mock Bible thumpers is that they have belief with science, right?