Some might be partisan, others under external pressure – but too many journalists in Israel have failed to tell the truth about Gaza, says Haaretz’s Roy Schwartz
Okay then: That would imply that they gave a shit before the bombing alarms and rocket attacks (and Palestinian rockets were never strong enough or far-range enough to seriously threaten the existence of Tel Aviv). That is completely untrue, see: the Nakba. See also: the whole settler colonialism project. Apathy to Palestinian suffering is a necessary part of the fabric of Israeli society, because the whole of Israeli society is built on past and present Palestinian suffering.
yeah , you’re right. the current state of the conflict is the palestinian kids throwing rocks at israeli soldiers in tanks.
but if you think standing on the side of palestine will resolve the issue and create peace in the area, you are naive. Long term robust peace talks, and both sides choosing leaders willing to forge a lasting peace with concessions is the only way forwards.
Long term robust peace talks, and both sides choosing leaders willing to forge a lasting peace with concessions is the only way forwards.
And for anything like that to happen, Israel needs to abandon its colonialist ambitions, because there can be no peace as long as settlements are being built. Once that happens, the peace talks you’re talking about can happen. This is not conjecture; we’ve seen this in action before multiple times.
Yep, you’re right again. one of my posts got deleted for “genocide apologia” but I’m not promoting anything of the sort. Israel is behaving disproportionately, enabling citizens to do all kinds of illegal shit and not batting an eye.
I’m not excusing their behaviour, I am saying the motivation behind their behaviour, which is the purpouse of the article being discussed. Why are Israelis indifferent about what’s happening in Gaza? Because this situation isn’t just “israel bad”. Yes , Israel bad, but also, other people bad too.
You’re trying to explain how Israelis’ indifference to Palestinian suffering is valid - at least in part - due to the actions of Hamas. This frames the situation in such a way that both sides of the conflict are in the wrong and must find middle ground, completely ignoring the clear and undeniable asymmetry in the relationship between Israel and Palestine which firmly places full responsibility on Israel.
Did I say that their response was proportionate? No. Did I give an explanation for their apathy? Yes.
Okay then: That would imply that they gave a shit before the bombing alarms and rocket attacks (and Palestinian rockets were never strong enough or far-range enough to seriously threaten the existence of Tel Aviv). That is completely untrue, see: the Nakba. See also: the whole settler colonialism project. Apathy to Palestinian suffering is a necessary part of the fabric of Israeli society, because the whole of Israeli society is built on past and present Palestinian suffering.
yeah , you’re right. the current state of the conflict is the palestinian kids throwing rocks at israeli soldiers in tanks.
but if you think standing on the side of palestine will resolve the issue and create peace in the area, you are naive. Long term robust peace talks, and both sides choosing leaders willing to forge a lasting peace with concessions is the only way forwards.
And for anything like that to happen, Israel needs to abandon its colonialist ambitions, because there can be no peace as long as settlements are being built. Once that happens, the peace talks you’re talking about can happen. This is not conjecture; we’ve seen this in action before multiple times.
In retrospect, it appears that any hope for peace died with the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin in 1995.
Yep, you’re right again. one of my posts got deleted for “genocide apologia” but I’m not promoting anything of the sort. Israel is behaving disproportionately, enabling citizens to do all kinds of illegal shit and not batting an eye.
I’m not excusing their behaviour, I am saying the motivation behind their behaviour, which is the purpouse of the article being discussed. Why are Israelis indifferent about what’s happening in Gaza? Because this situation isn’t just “israel bad”. Yes , Israel bad, but also, other people bad too.
You absolutely are doing genocide apologia.
how?
You’re trying to explain how Israelis’ indifference to Palestinian suffering is valid - at least in part - due to the actions of Hamas. This frames the situation in such a way that both sides of the conflict are in the wrong and must find middle ground, completely ignoring the clear and undeniable asymmetry in the relationship between Israel and Palestine which firmly places full responsibility on Israel.