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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 day ago

Kiev’s ‘exchange fund’ nears zero, Russia has thousands more Ukrainian POWs — Medinsky

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Kiev’s ‘exchange fund’ nears zero, Russia has thousands more Ukrainian POWs — Medinsky

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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 day ago
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The Russian Presidential Aide and head of the Russian negotiating group with Ukraine also said that recently the Russian Military Historical Society handed over several thousand books to the institutions where Ukrainian prisoners of war are being held, including textbooks on the history of Russia in the 20th century and pamphlets about Bandera
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    Russian state media. Not a credible source for anything (see also the other articles for some glaring examples of misinformation).

    Although if Ukraine has less PoWs to exchange, part of the reason might be that Russia would rather see their soldiers die than surrender. They actively shoot their own soldiers.

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      Source: watched Enemy at the Gates one time

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      haha yea, the western media says it’s un-credible so it must be true! Not lik they have any incentive to slander a news outlet that bucks approved western narratives or anythin. Nope. No reason at all! 😂

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        Unlike Russian state media, western media is independent and not beholden to their government, but nice try.

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          “Independent” western media? I’d sooner find a unicorn

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            Tell me who NRC is beholden to, then.

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              NRC is beholden to the massive corporate conglomerate Mediahaus, which is, in turn, beholden to the Belgian oligarch Thomas Leysen.

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          Western media is usually beholden to state department lines, and recieves partial funding. Moreover, western media is thoroughly under the control of wealthy capitalists laser-focusing on their own interests. There’s no such thing as “free” mass media.

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            Which state department do you mean? Are you aware that “western media” is spread over 2 dozen different countries? Sure, US corporate media is highly partisan and corrupt, but even the US has independent media, and many other countries have much more independent media. They’re certainly not as dominated by the state, let alone a single state, as they are in Russia. Not even in the US (although that’s certainly moving in that direction). And in every western country, even the US, the media will often disagree with or debunk the government’s narrative.

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              This coming from someone who was perfectly happy using the Ukrainian military as a source. Are you going to also try to argue that they are independent from the state?

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              Private media is beholden to the wealthiest in society, and often recieves state funding as well. This is true across all western nations, including European nations. The few, minor independent news organizations that go against the grain are overwhelmed by the standard mass media.

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                Bullshit. Sure, in the US everything is corporate owned and controlled. But in Europe, there are media reporting every side of every story. My primary newspaper (NRC, a major Dutch newspaper) has no problem going against the grain when the situation calls for it. But even in the US with its highly partisan media, there are news outlets for every political leaning, and many do not blindly parrot the government narrative like Russian media does.

                Whatever misgivings you have about western media (and some are definitely justified), it’s really no comparison to Russia, where a wrong word can have you falling out of a window. Putin brutally silences dissent in a way even Trump can only dream of.

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                  Dutch media isn’t particularly different from US media. Further, the “every political leaning” really just translates to various flavors of right-wing, from SocDem to fascist. What gets boosted by private investors is what permeates discourse. Private media is no less biased than state media.

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                  The netherlands are absolutely not exempt from this phenomenon. It affects every country where capital stands above political power and the media, including yours.

                  https://swprs.org/the-propaganda-multiplier/

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                  Putin brutally silences dissent in a way even Trump can only dream of.

                  Israel has murdered more journalists than Putin could dream of, with full support of Europe.

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          western media is independent and not beholden to their government

          Good one! 😂😂

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            Definitely better than Russian media.

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      Source on them shooting their own soldiers???

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        made-it-the-fuck-up

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        There’s tons:

        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67234144

        https://www.newsweek.com/video-shows-russian-military-shooting-own-retreating-troops-ukraine-media-1806118

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13891677/Deserting-Russians-killed-snipers-wounded-troops-no-longer-evacuated-injuring-avoid-fighting-intercepted-messages-reveal.html

        https://www.kyivpost.com/post/18201

        https://united24media.com/latest-news/drone-footage-exposes-russian-soldiers-killing-their-own-wounded-on-the-battlefield-10164

        https://kyivindependent.com/intercepted-calls-suggest-a-russian-commander-ordering-to-shoot-ones-own/

        https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-opened-fire-on-own-surrendering-soldiers-with-artillery-ukraine-2023-9

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          Lol, those are literally using the Ukrainian military as their source. Not even state media, literally just the state military itself. You absolute hypocrite.

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