Yeah that movie was something. Having not read the comics first I quite enjoyed the vibe of it. I think the penis in question glowing in Watchmen made it fairly hard to disregard. I really liked the HBO series and as much as I hated it at the time I respect that they had a single season show and they just did a single season.

Yeah the puritanical thing is weird right. I took my kids to a beach here in Australia and they literally staked out a spot 5 metres from a lovely Canadian backpacker, who just so happened to be topless. We had a chat for a bit and I gave her some tips about local sightseeing as well as directions to the nearest unofficial nude beach. Both my boys (6 & 8 at the time) didn’t glance at her once, kids just aren’t super concerned about boobs in my experience. On the other hand you better believe I heard ALL about the first fight they ever saw in person.

My kids are now teenagers and have gotten a bit more concerned with their own privacy, but still don’t seem to be exhibiting any hang ups about casual or contextual nudity.

I’d just watch the 2nd, I don’t get why its so disliked, not going to say it was a masterpiece but its better than average for the genre. But I think there is more than enough c9ntext to watch any of them in isolation.

No, I’m from Australia, which I always considered to be a pretty conservative country with regards to nudity. I think we have been more inconsistent with that than the USA though.

I read my comment out to my wife after I posted it. She gave me a smirk and asked if I had any good responses yet.

As far as the TV is concerned, it has been a bit of a nuisance in terms of finding the right space for it, but it does make going back to smaller TVs super noticeable. It was actually my wife who demanded we get the 85 over the 75, pricing was good on both. Can recommend getting the best tech you can afford though, our blacks are not super uniform and that shows up quite a bit on better quality Dolby Vision content.

You know what its like, it seems big at first. I remember right after I first mounted it I wasn’t sure I would be able to take it all in. After a while though you get used to it, it doesnt seem so unmanagable. Hell I could probably handle something a bit bigger when the time comes to upgrade.

Oh yeah Eccleston knows how to play an absolute monster.

For this though:

I guess I just saw it as fairly naturalistic, the whole naked infected kinda made sense to me and after a moment or two it stopped registering with me. I guess I watched the movie on an 85 inch TV, maybe it was more evident watching it on the big screen at a cinema.

Also the series has been fairly judicious with its use of femininity throughout I think the way that the female characters were put in jeopardy in the first film made it clear that the apocalypse held additional threat and danger for the girls and women after society had collapsed. I can see how given that framework this primal embodiment of masculine power and virility might hit some people hard.

I’d be curious how it landed with Europeans as opposed to Americans/English/Australians I wonder if the more puritanical views on nudity would show differences in audience reactions.

Look I kinda agree with most of what’s said here, the tonal whiplash of the final act left me a bit lost for words. The thing I find so weird about the reviews I have read is the obsession with penises. Have these people not seen one before, is it that upsetting to them. There are also nude infected women, you can see some “zombie” titties but this seems completely unremarkable.

Am I just too old and rational to express adequate shock about seeing naked men in a group of naked people for whom nudity isn’t an absolutely unreasonable state of being?

Or was it just the size of one particular member that made the experience noteworthy for them?

Oh and just re-read your comment and sure back in the 70s and 80s when the US was looking to stitch up as much of our resources and industry as they felt like we were likely important to secure, these days… I’d bet you it takes three wranglers to get Trump to mispronounce Anthony Albanese’s name. We are boring and if it wasn’t for the fact that we have so much American ownership and a bunch of US military bases we wouldn’t be important enough to even consider. You know our position on the tariff list is primarily based on our previous dumbarse Prime Minister getting preferential rates in the past then allowing other countries to siphon their products through our ports otherwise we might have been given the same rate as the penguins got.

Well aware. Seeing the US crash out the way it is make me hope that as a tiny consolation we might start to extricate ourselves even a little.

I did tell some friends once that I thought the best idea if the US goes ahead with tariffs on us, is we should start reconsidering the rent on Pine Gap. Would be hilarious if we looked at how much damage the tariffs did to our markets and then passed it on that way… What are they going to do, relocate the number 1 “definitely not a spy base” in this part of the world somewhere else… And where… Indonesia… But guess why that would never happen?

Hey, I take offense at that phrasing, Vassal implies that we occasionally merit a thought on the part of our overlords… I seriously doubt we warrant that much consideration. Reckon we could be termed sycophantic rubes instead?

I was going to ask how he knew it was Arch, but I feel like that is just setting up the next comment.