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  • seralth@lemmy.worldtoNo Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•What's the best way to respond to someone who says "transracial is just as valid as transgender"? (Transracial referring to people who identify as another race like Rachel Dolezal)English
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    2 days ago

    Assuming race, As a white person you are going to struggle to get others to see you as black. Cause those are social constructs. YOU do not get to decide what others see you as when it comes to a social construct. Because the very point of a social construct is that it’s the general social frame work used to see others as.

    Ethnicity on the other hand, as a white skin tone person if you grew up in Africa in a tribe of indigenous people then you would be an indigenous person. Ethnicity only cares about the facts.

    To mirror that to transgender.

    Gender is a social construct, it’s what others see you as and how you categorize into a given communities framework. This differs between communities. For example what defines a male gender in ancient Rome is different then ancient Scotland. Both having male genders that quite literally just do not exist in one or the other.

    While sex is the physical only caring about the factual biological. The actual flesh and reproductive organs. You either have them, or you don’t. Primary or secondary. You can alter them with modern medicine sure, but even after alteration. It still only matters what you have. Are you a male producer or female reproducer. Are you functional or not. Do you have both sets? That’s basically it, sex just cares about the facts it’s not socially constructed. You can’t argue that someone with a penis does not have a penis.

    Ethnicity tho, doesn’t have a modern medicine equivalent. It just is what it is. You can’t change facts, so your rather stuck with it. Unlike a penis.

  • seralth@lemmy.worldtoNo Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•What's the best way to respond to someone who says "transracial is just as valid as transgender"? (Transracial referring to people who identify as another race like Rachel Dolezal)English
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    2 days ago

    Social constructed concepts are applied by others to you. Those concepts and frameworks are build up by the community over time. So where your born matters a lot as what framework your raised in is going to be the one you adopt naturally and use to also see yourself though.

    That’s fundamentally the problem. Race and gender both, it doesn’t matter what you choose or think of for yourself. You don’t get to decide what others see you as. And since it’s communal you as a single person can’t change it for everyone. It takes many people working together over long periods of time to change.

    Which is why it’s such problem, humans are fundamentally a social animal. We WANT to fit in, so when our self perception doesn’t align with what others see us as we become distressed.

    So with in the social framework others see us as, we try to realign ourselves to be perceived as what we want. This removes the misalignment of self perception with social perception.

    Fundamentally this is one of the biggest aspects of transgender body dysphoria. That social misalignment vs transsexual body dysphoria and it’s physical misalignment.

    Tho transsexual body dysphoria can also play a role here or none at all.

    As transsexual body dysphoria tends to be rather detached entirely from the social construct. People are able to have one or the other and both. Transsexual body dysphoria is very self driven and almost if not entirely based on ones own perception of their own body.

    Remember gender is made up and fluid based on the culture. Sex is biological and rooted in the physical.

  • seralth@lemmy.worldtoNo Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•What's the best way to respond to someone who says "transracial is just as valid as transgender"? (Transracial referring to people who identify as another race like Rachel Dolezal)English
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    2 days ago

    I feel like your over focusing on the medical aspect

    I took to mean like how you compare say breeds of dogs. Both a golden retriever and a German Shepard are both dogs,.both k-9 members of the space species.

    All fo them have the biological ability to be both male or female as it’s a secondary trait controlled by hormones.

    While race is basically genetics and your DNA. You cant just edit your DNA and rewrite your body to express characteristics of another race.

    You can’t just make your body suddenly become a red head, or grow an afro. You can’t just suddenly force your nose or cheek bones to rearrange themselves.

    You can’t just shrink to lengthen your bones.

    Most of what makes up human “races” is just the breeding of our ancestors.

    In the future we may be able to change all of this and custom design out bodies. But that wouldnt be a natural change unlike hormone therapy.

    Instead of taking advantage of a natural ability of the body, you would be entirely overruling it and entirely creating something new that isn’t natural.

    Basically you would be performing eugentics. For good or bad.