I think I understand what you are saying, but that is the nature of a society.

We all have our own unique upbringings and experiences that shape us.

Political tribalism helps increase the difficulty of uniting the working class. Divide and conquer is still relevant in our society, especially with identity politics and social issues.

I think it fundamentally goes back to:

It is difficult to have discussions with people that do not share our views or way of thinking.

It takes a lot of time and effort IRL and on forums.

dog whistles

I am not sure which secret meanings I have in my comments.

I think it fundamentally goes back to:

It is difficult to have discussions with people that do not share our views or way of thinking.

It takes a lot of time and effort IRL and on forums.

I thought my way of commenting was simple; I see that I am wrong on that point, but I still strive to continue to learn and speak with those that do not think like me or that agree with my way of seeing the world.

You are correct.

It is difficult to have discussions with people that do not share our views or way of thinking.

It takes a lot of time and effort IRL and on forums.

I am always going to be highly critical of all governments, oligarchy-controlled media, and politicians.

This include the Russian and the United States government.

All is well, peace!

extremely pro-Russia

repeat debunked lies

This goes back to tribalism within politics and what propaganda apparatus we each prefer to consume on the daily.

I am always going to be highly critical of all governments, oligarchy-controlled media, and politicians.

The status quo is what is fed to the working class, but new media and the internet have helped fight the echo chambers and censorship we are born in; being pro-war and believing everything our governments tell us to believe will be much harder when there are multiple sources of information.

Interesting and weird, but a funny take, hahahaha.

Say less, fam.

Peace!

you’re strongly behind Russia

This is the boogeyman again; goal posts keep changing and repeating.

Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein were also labeled Russian assets per the great Hillary Clinton and her group; if you can’t beat them, smear them.

they are more on being dissident to the oligarchic view and their love for forever wars and maximizing profit in exchange for the continuation of the mass murder of the working class.

I am more on being anti-war and against the oligarchies’ goals of pushing for the funding of forever wars that help their profits while dismissing the mass slaughter of the working class.

Nice try, though, but Hillary Clinton smears only work in certain circles.

I do not mind them, but I do try to call them out or just disagree.

Since forums like to ban and censor if you don’t disagree with smears in a timely manner.

I am against the duopoly; I am not team blue or red.

I think tribalism is not healthy, nor does it help the working class.

Jimmy shows a Bernie Sanders video (08:03), where he himself criticizes the duopoly.

Jimmy also interviewed AOC before she became a career politician.

This conversation reminds me of this quote:

"I don’t criticize Democrats cuz I side with Republicans, I criticize Democrats Cuz THEY side with Republicans.

Our fight is not Left/Right anymore, it is Us vs.Them.

We have 2 corporate party’s that serve Wall St/War Machine/Corporations & crush everyone else. #UniParty @0rf"

I have shared posts, in the past, about Ukraine and Russia.

Feel free to have a look at them. FYI, they are not the status quo of United States military talking points; they are more on being dissident to the oligarchic view and their love for forever wars and maximizing profit in exchange for the continuation of the mass murder of the working class.

Well, when it comes to politics in the United States versus the world, it seems to differ a good amount, not just with conservatism.

You can have a diversity of opinions without indulging fascists.

Yes, that would be ideal, but we must not forget people do come to the same conclusions without needing to be paid or tricked into thinking or viewing the world a certain way.

Propaganda does affect everyone; we all have our preferred sources of propaganda, even if we see ourselves as being above its reach.

Yes, that is a problem when it comes to having discussions with others, especially if political tribalism is heavily involved.

Echo chambers aren’t good sure, just look at the .ml instances,

It seems . ML has an echo chamber problem then.

allowing “free speech” and bigotry isn’t good as well.

It is free speech and our first amendment right; privately owned platforms do like to hinder and censor dissidents, with help from the government.

It has to be consistent because it is always used for one side first, then it is used against the other later on.

I think we have found out that many free speech absolutists are hypocrites and were using it as an excuse to help their profits.

I think Glenn Greenwald is an excellent example of someone with consistency when he shares his views and critiques, especially when you see his background:

Glenn Edward Greenwald is an American journalist, author, and former lawyer. In 1996, Greenwald founded a law firm concentrating on First Amendment litigation.

Hahaha, thanks!

TIL

First I am hearing about this narrative.

I see it as some socialists becoming communists over time, or they give in to the status quo, like AOC and Bernie Sanders.

Thanks for the link. I will have to make time to watch it; it looks like a weird and interesting viewpoint!

Generated Summary:

This YouTube video features a discussion between the host of 1Dime Radio and Michael Downs, author of “Capital VS Timenergy: A Žižekian Critique of Nick Land,” about accelerationism, focusing on the ideas of Nick Land and Curtis Yarvin (Mencius Moldbug), and the challenges of right-wing accelerationism. The conversation also explores “Timeenergy” as a basis for socialism and whether socialism might become a “conservative” movement against the accelerating change of capitalism.

Main Topics:

• Accelerationism: Exploring the philosophies of Nick Land and Curtis Yarvin, particularly their contributions to accelerationist thought.
• Neoreaction (NRx): Discussing the core tenets of neoreactionary ideology and its connection to figures like Mencius Moldbug.
• Capitalism and Artificial Intelligence: Examining Nick Land’s thesis that capitalism is inherently geared towards the development of AI.
• “Timenergy”: Introducing and discussing the concept of “Timenergy” (Time + Energy) as a potential foundation for socialist thought.
• Left vs. Right Accelerationism: Differentiating between left and right-wing approaches to accelerationism.

Key Points:

• Michael Downs’ Background: Downs is presented as a working-class intellectual and autodidact philosopher.
• Nick Land’s Philosophy: Downs provides a detailed breakdown of Nick Land’s philosophical evolution, dividing it into six periods:
  1. Early Land: Focus on Denal Materialism, influenced by Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Freud, Bataille, and Deleuze & Guattari.
  2. Mid-90s: Theory-fiction era, emphasizing capitalism as an engine of decoding and deterritorialization, leading to AI production.
  3. CCRU Period: Experimental philosophy collective, exploring the occult and the power of “hypers” (fictions becoming real through hype).
  4. Shanghai Period: Focus on mega-cities as accelerants of AI development.
  5. Neoreactionary Period: Embracing neoreactionary ideas alongside Curtis Yarvin, advocating for “SOV Corps” (Sovereign Corporations) and anti-democracy.
  6. Bitcoin Period: Interest in Bitcoin and its technological potential.
• Curtis Yarvin (Mencius Moldbug): Discussed as a key figure in the neoreactionary movement, advocating for corporate city-states.
• Critique of Democracy: Both Land and Yarvin are portrayed as being critical of democracy, favoring alternative governance models.
• AI and the Left: The discussion highlights a perceived lack of engagement with AI on the left, with many leftists dismissing its significance.
• Marxist Interpretation of AI: Downs argues that Nick Land offers a unique and valuable perspective on AI by analyzing it through a Marxist lens, emphasizing its connection to the structure of the economy.
• China and Capitalism: The conversation touches on China’s success with capitalism, particularly in the field of AI, attributing it to a Marxist understanding of surplus value extraction.

Highlights:

• The Nick Land vs. Žižek Debate: The video opens with a preview of a discussion about the potential debate between Nick Land and Slavoj Žižek.
• Downs’ Meeting with Žižek: Downs recounts his experience of having breakfast with Slavoj Žižek at a conference.
• The CCRU’s Experimentation: The discussion of the Cybernetic Culture Research Unit (CCRU) and their exploration of theory-fiction, drugs, and the occult is a notable highlight.
• Land’s Influence on Working-Class Perceptions of AI: Downs shares anecdotes about how his working-class coworkers express views on AI that align with Nick Land’s pessimistic predictions.
• Land’s Marxist Perspective: The video emphasizes that Land’s unique contribution is his Marxist analysis of AI, linking its development to the structure of the capitalist economy.

Just reacting to the title?

What did you agree or disagree with in Jimmy’s take?

True.

I make it easy to see what I share and what my thoughts are on politics.

I try to keep and share my views in simple terms so it is easier to understand.

In general, or in left-leaning communities?

Self-built echo chambers and self-censorship seem to hinder our views, especially when it comes to being able to notice populist viewpoints and what the working class views are on politics.

Oh, interesting!

I disagree, but thanks for sharing your views on the matter.

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1. word, sharing

I think that is the norm on lemmy, though, not just conservative leaning accounts.