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  • But in the US the genocide was largely carried out by random people shooting folks for fun from their train wagons, in Israel it’s carried out by the professionally organized army of an allegedly democratic nation. Very different.

    Even when the US army was directly involved (no small degree, especially if you don’t accept Native American warriors as military targets), its actions were not driven by Democratic institutions. Sure, people voted for leaders who supported genocide, but the genocide was not the direct result of democratic institutions malfunctioning. In Israel it is.




  • Yes, it’s not that genocide has never happened in democracies. But in the US, democratic institutions were not the driving factors behind the genocide: you did not have actors locked in to their genocidal actions due to the democratic institutions. Democracy and genocide in America were two largely separate things.

    My idea here is that while the genocides on Native Americans were genocides in a democracy, Israel’s genocide can be categorized as a genocide by democracy. It is made possible, or at the very least worse, by democratic institutions (however flawed).

    It’s just a shower thought really, I might obviously be wrong. But I have a fairly good overview of the history of genocide and I am fairly certain this one is unique in this regard.



  • Indeed - I think one of the big takeaways from this for the international community will be just how incompatible apartheid is with democracy. It has been obvious to (honest) observers and to supporters of Palestine for a long time, but recent experiences in Israel shows how democracy is not worth the paper of the ballots if democracy does not extend to everyone.

    Seeing how Netanyahu deals with criticism from the Israeli opposition will be extremely interesting. I think it’s safe to say liberal Israelis have bigger things to worry about than Hamas.


  • I don’t know many israelis, but the ones I do know are on the streets protesting all the time now. Accounts differ, but there are many signs that Netanyahu is not particularly popular even at home these days.

    What is pretty unique about Israel’s genocide is that it is strangely democratic in nature. Sure, Israeli democracy is hardly a democracy at all, but it plays by democratic rules for the part of the population who are considered full citizen. And within this democratic system Netanyahu and his crooks have painted themselves into a corner, where they need to appease the most extremist extreme right terrorists they have chosen as coalition partners. Because the second they stop the government will fall and they will almost certainly be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

    So the combination of the existence of these crimes and the democracy-like institutions in Israel are actually forcing Netanyahu to double down on genocide. It’s pretty crazy.

    In the third Reich, the first thing the NSDAP did was to abolish democratic institutions. Israel’s genocide is very different - dynamics of democratic government are actively fueling the fire of their holocaust. It’s the first ever democratic genocide. When the dust settles, I think this is going to give us a lot to think about.



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    A rule of thumb for weirdness in age difference is age/2+7, leaving you at 51/2+7=32,5. So going by that, 30 is a bit on the young side, which is obvious also from the fact that you felt the need to create this thread.

    If one person would be in a position to judge you for it (or rightfully feel weird about it) it’s your daughter. It’s safe to say she seems cool with it, so whatever.




  • What is it like?

    For me, it’s my favourite thing in the world. I feel more at home when I’m in the middle of the mountains not having seen people for days than when I’m in any building I’ve ever lived in. We evolved for these conditions, and at least for some of us it resonates with our souls - much like the ocean calls to others.

    The experience of hiking is a bit like running, just dragged out over days. In the beginning you have energy. At some point you get tired, and you might want to stop for a while and you’re worried if you’re going to make it. And then you push through, and suddenly your body is in walking mode. So don’t get too worried if you start feeling tired early in the hike.

    As for the tent, the experience varies a lot. Is it raining? Are there lots of mosquitoes or midges? Is it cold? Are you walking until sunset, or do you have time at the camp site? What is the terrain you put your tent on?

    You generally don’t have the answer to those questions. I have had a wide variety of experiences in tents - crazy tent pole-breaking winds, thunderstorms beyond anything I believed was possible, floods, cows trying to graze underneath the tent in the middle of the night. Most of the time though the biggest event is waking up to the view, or going out to take a leak at night and enjoying the night sky.

    The important thing is to always be flexible and open to improvise. When you’re in up there you’re at the mercy of the mountain, and you adjust your plans accordingly. Many mountain folks believe that the mountain has a will of its own that needs to be respected, and I don’t hink it’s too far from reality. Following from that is that the experience is never completely predictable, which is part of what makes its appeal infinite.

    Enjoy!