Holup. Planetside is still around???

What other options do the Palestinian people have

That’s part of the crux. Both the Palestinians and the Israelis need better leadership.

Unfortunately, we are never returning to the 68 borders. If I had the power to magically make it happen, I would do it in a snap. But the reality is that it’s never happening. Each side has to concede something to move forward. Palestinians need to accept the Jewish state at this point --whether it’s fair or not. 10 million Israelis are not going to just up and leave as much as we wish that could happen. Israelis need to demolish illegal settlements and restore occupied territories even if they are not going to concede the 68 borders.

I don’t really know what the best answer is but the onus is on both parties. I agree Israel has the upper hand militarily, but Israel does not want another 100 years of suicide bombers either. There has to be a path forward.

We agree a lot more than you think. I’m not saying the Palestinians don’t feel justified in fighting. Hamas still enjoys broad support among Palestinians.

The point where we diverge I think is that it goes both ways. The Palestinians never accepted the establishment of a Jewish state, even before the Peele commission even happened. The issue as I see it, that sentiment never wavered even though the context has changed drastically.

Not that any of that justifies the conduct of the IDF in this current conflict. We agree - all I’m saying it’s not so simple as an occupying force creating an apartheid condition.

I don’t know that Israel closed all diplomatic options. There were plenty of offers on the table that Hamas / PLO walked away from.

I don’t think Israel are good guys and they are effective opportunists with the land grabs / settlements. I also don’t think Hamas cares one bit about the Palestinian people either. I feel like they always seem to get carte blanche to act with impunity because the Palestinians are oppressed --which, don’t get me wrong, they absolutely are. It just seems we always single out one party, but to me they are both culpable of exploiting the suffering of the Palestinians. Just my opinion.

Why were they holding hostages to begin?

Did you mean Camaraderie?

Not really. He calls out headlines from news articles for actions that happened but not for his main claims.

First ten seconds in and he’s full of shit.

His claim is a conspiratorial garbage that “it’s by design”. This claim is never backed up by evidence. It has been debunked thousands of times and anyone that still spews it is doing it intentionally. This guy is 100% on the anti - establishment grift that is so popular on YouTube.

He doesn’t research or source anything. It’s the laziest gift ever.

Second thought is a scammer that used a gofundme to pilfer his fan base. Seems appropriate you would fall for his videos Linkerbaan

I haven’t seen it yet, but his previous film (The Blackcoat’s Daughter) was hailed as a masterpiece in horror. However I didn’t like it at all. It was exceptionally well directed and produced but the script was hollow and incoherent. I get the sense Oz hasn’t made any big leaps since

Are we starting a ‘best of lemmy hall’ because this shit is gold. Not broken arms reddit but it’s inching there

Meh

Ok. I just wasn’t sure. I guess there’s always an element of risk involved in these things.

Is. This a scam??

This whole breadtube has become a parody of itself at this point. It’s a shame because when it started out there was. Some good stuff. Contra points still rocks but does she even count as breadtube any more?

It seems to me you are unable to engage with anything I’m saying so you keep repeating about media obfuscation.

Lucky for us, we have evidence of all this: Voice calls, memos, and transcripts. Seems to me you are quite clueless about what you are talking about and are happy repeating what you hear.

No, they were not a “small percentage” of individuals that got violent. Nice try.

They were expressly there to stop the count of the electoral votes cast while Trump and his cronies orchestrated false slate of electors at the ready to replace the votes in several states. Also, let me repeat, because I don’t think it’s sinking in: These were not some disenfranchised activists on a random protest. They were there on the most important day of the year during the most critical part of the electoral process: the peaceful transfer of power. During this whole time, Trump resisted calling in the national guard so that his false slate of electors could pass through and overturn the vote.

That’s who Glenn is defending.

Anytime someone equivocates between Jan 6 and BLM -or any other riots for that matter- it makes me lose all respect for them. There was damage from BLM protests, sure. But Jan 6 was a violent insurrection into what is the most important day in our electoral process: the day when the peaceful transfer of power is meant to occur and anyone trying to draw parallels between that and BLM rioters is actively engaged in subverting our democracy. You can whine about media obfuscation all day long, but we all saw the video footage and we all knew what day of the year it was.

Yeah, the anti-establishment schtick is getting old. Glenn is part of the fraternity of ultimate skeptics -when it’s convenient, of course. And frankly, the theatrics are getting old. Not interested.

There’s nothing wrong with going against the status quo. It’s when you let the anti-establishment narrative supersede facts that we have a problem. This guy defended the Jan 6 riots on extremely flimsy ground (his thesis falls in line with the rest of conservatives: that it was a peaceful demonstration that got out of hand). Not only that, but he goes to bat for Trump pretty often, of all people. It’s par the course for the rest of the anti-establishment enlightened centrists (see Pin Tool and the likes). Not impressed.

Yeah, Glenn is a joke at this point. Absolutely dedicated to living in narratives rather than facts.