It may be more common among certain job types, but I don’t think that makes it professional behavior to do so regardless of the type of work.

I agree with the sentiment, but if we’re going to make that argument based around professionalism, I would also have to argue that it’s not very professional to use that kind of language in a work setting.

So maybe this is a situation where both sides can grow.

Exactly. The guard rails that kept Trump in check and protected democracy in his first term will not be there for his second. They are making sure of that.

If he gets in its 4 years suck it up and move on. Then in 4years time campaign harder against him. Thats how democracy works.

What a terrible take. This is either an incredibly uninformed opinion, or a Trump troll not arguing in good faith.

Yeah, I totally get it. So much mental gymnastics to make it all make sense and essentially to give themselves permission to believe what they want to believe. A lot of them that I interact with don’t seem to think very deeply about it. For some of them, I definitely think that’s intentional because they know if they did, they would have to face some things that they don’t want to. And if they had to change their stance, that would make them an outcast in their social groups and in their families and they’re not willing to do that.

I used to spend so much time trying to talk my parents down from the conspiracy theories they were hearing and repeating. But I just couldn’t keep up with it and the more I tried to discredit it (even with proof), the more it seemed to just push them deeper into it.

My dad continues to make comments suggesting that “the things we’ve been taught” aren’t true…and then goes on about some conspiracy theory. And I just want to say to him, ok…you clearly have this sense that you’re being lied to. But it’s like you will look everywhere for the lies except for where the lies are actually coming from!

That’s how cults work. Those on the inside are either unable or unwilling to see the reality of things. Those on the outside wonder how they cannot.

Many have isolated themselves (at Trump’s direction) to a media ecosystem where they aren’t being exposed to the truth about him. And when they are, he’s trained them to believe that it’s all lies. They are living in an entirely alternate reality crafted for them by Fox (and other rightwing outlets), Truth Social, and Trump and his congressional cronies.

I have family members who’ve been living in that world for years. Parroting the Fox talking points and praising Trump for what they portray him as. Like cults do, over time these things have become part of their identity…even their faith. It’s not easy to do a 180 on that. To them, it would be unthinkable to ever vote for a Democrat because that would be counter to who they are as a person. It would also be unthinkable to them that a Democrat could ever even be worthy of voting for, given all the things they’ve been “taught” about the Democrats. To them, I’m the crazy one for suggesting things might be different from what they’re hearing. They are trapped in a cult.

All that being said…the longer it goes, I think the scale is shifting from “they haven’t been exposed to the truth” to “willful ignorance of the the truth”. That really wears on my patience for them and I find myself thinking at times that there’s no excuse anymore. But I also have to remind myself how difficult it is to extract someone from a cult. And I remember that I knew these people before Trump…and they are GOOD people with good hearts. But they’ve been fooled so very thoroughly by Trumpism and what it promised them.

I’m angrier at Fox, Newsmax, OAN, and all of the elected officials who’ve propped Trump up and peddled his brand than I am at his supporters who’ve been fooled by them. Without them, Trump is nothing. He could have been a laughing stock that we would have just moved on from if they hadn’t championed him, lied about him and his opponents, sanitized his worst moments, etc.They truly have shaped their viewer’s minds about Trump and about the Democrats. It’s enraging.

I think what you said is true. But you’re referring to people who have an actual handicap and are discriminated against for it.

What I’m referring to is the idea of allowing myself to believe that a people group are less intelligent than I am just because they don’t align with me politically or ideologically. There is no actual handicap for which they are being discriminated against, simply having a different life experience and different view point is enough. It’s ironically a deeply fascist mentality…and I agree it is everywhere.

I was mainly responding to the previous comment which characterized right-wingers as having “lesser cognitive ability”. Just saying that that kind of thinking sets up a “we’re superior” mentality that can too easily lead to the same kinds of consequences as thinking you’re superior based on race or social status. There are so many environmental and experiential factors that go into where a person lands politically and how effective certain forms of propaganda are on them. Blanket statements that characterize entire people groups as less intelligent are not in any way accurate or helpful.

There are definitely plenty of well educated, intelligent fascists as well. It’s pretty dangerous to start thinking that what separates two ideological groups is intelligence.