Im finding that people have strong opinion on what qualifies as organic. Haha.

I think it’s cool I can talk to people about chemistry outside of work tho. None of my friends understand anything about what I do for a living.

You’re right- primarily because science changes as new things are discovered and therefore the definition changes.

I still think the definition I learned with C-H covalent bonds indicating organic has fewer exceptions than other definitions.

Charcoal and activated charcoal are not amorphous carbon compounds because their structures contain other elements than just carbon.

None of those compounds would be stable. Theoretically you’re making a good point for an exception to C-H bonds defining organic chemistry but I bet all of your fully halogenated compounds would degrade and break apart until some number of hygrogens replace the halogens to make it stable.

Point taken tho.

According to Wikipedia it is- but I agree after looking at its structure that it is not.

There are no carbon-hydrogen covalent bonds in the structure.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonic_acid#:~:text=In chemistry%2C carbonic acid is,quite stable at room temperature.

Your link claims any compound with carbon is organic (there are exceptions listed) which really doesn’t fit either since there so many exceptions.

I was glib with my organic chemistry because it’s not just hydrogen atoms specifically but more the covalent bond between carbon and hydrogen that makes it organic so they have to be bonded covalently to be considered organic.

There’s still exceptions to this definition but they’re far fewer and usually only found in extremely unstable compounds like the fully halogenated fringe cases you mentioned in another comment.

Not really completely false just missing a piece of information- ie I should have mentioned they be bonded but carbonic acid and ketones are both organic compounds so I’m not sure what you’re trying to say there.

Edit: carbonic Acid is not because there are no C-H bonds.

Just adding something to water doesn’t make it a compound. Adding something to water makes it a solution.

Modern definition of Organic as it pertains to chemistry is any compound that contains BOTH hydrogen AND carbon.

Edit: Vitamins in general including absorbed acid are organic compounds because they contain both carbon and hydrogen atoms.

Edit2- I left out a key piece of information. The carbon and hydrogen need to be covalently bonded as well not just part of the compound.

Calcium carbonate is inorganic because it doesn’t contain hydrogen. Organic compound must have both carbon and hydrogen atoms.

Edit- more specifically the hydrogen and carbon should be covalently bonded and there are still a few exceptions as noted by other comments below.

That’s why I specifically mentioned it. :)

The suggested use for anyone not bothering to look this up is to deodorize gas and stool but it’s suggested use is for people with colostomy or exposed stomas where smelly gas and stool is a constantly expelled or people with chronic gas and liquid stool.

I wouldn’t want to stick any drug in my body just to stop farting in social situations. Every drug has or could have side effects even Tylenol or aspirin.

I never said this guy has mental illness and THAT’s why he did it. In fact I never even mentioned mental illness at all. I personally hate that term and never use it myself because it implies something is wrong with people who are having negative feelings or intrusive ideation.

The systemic issues in this country are vast and depressing and they def need to be solved. I’m not in anyway trying to dismiss them.

We can’t solve these issues if everyone is approaching them from angry defensive or defeated positions.

Getting everyone access to comprehensive mental health I would argue is the FIRST step at solving the systemic issues in the world because it will help people learn appropriate and valuable ways to cope with negative feelings.

My comment hit a sore spot with you but you just getting cart Blanche angry at me isn’t helping us have a reasonable conversation about how we get people the tools needed to cope with the systemic issues you mention here.

Im OP- that is exactly what I was saying.

Everyone will need a therapist at some point in their life for one reason or another and right now it costs way too much or carry’s too much of a stigma for people to consider it.

If people don’t find ways to adequately deal with their negative feelings they act out. Sometimes I horrific ways.

We’re also enriching the wealthy and big business instead.

That my thought as well. Rivian is just acting like this is normal shit too. Like why ren’t they calling out the bad behavior?

That my thought as well. Rivian is just acting like this is normal shit too. Like why ren’t they calling out the bad behavior?

What the fuck? Ding Dong Ditching is as old as time. Who gets so mad at some kids they chase them down and ram them with their car over it.

We need some comprehensive mental healthcare in this country. Damn.

Jesus Christ these fascist fucks. Damn.