I see you do not understand that by “down,” I am speaking historically and not arbitrarily “in the last three years.” The graph with #5 goes back to 1993. The downward trend is clear. I’m not sure if you’re being pedantic or deliberately obtuse.

Besides which, the claim of “insane violent crime rates” is your contention, and you have provided no definition or source for this notion.

I don’t feel the need to keep engaging with you on this subject. You seem to take pride in missing the forest for the trees. Have a nice night.

My guy, I’m not sure that you read either link despite quoting them. You skipped over #5, huh? Or #6, that despite a surge the murder rate is still below previous highs? Hell, they even say that outright in #7.

You’re right that I didn’t specifically link the second article to discuss underreported deaths. I did it because Figure 2 shows NVSS data that I could not otherwise locate easily, which also shows the trend I suggested. It can be difficult, I’m sure for reasons you understand, to source figures for police violence from rigorous sources… Especially when, as the article I linked notes, there are numerous issues with official sources. Here’s UIC’s page anyway, though.

But sure, yeah, thanks for your helpful illumination.

Violent crime is down. Why are deaths from police violence higher?

IDK, I don’t feel like I had to say that much to get in with my alt. I just wrote about how I liked having some more heavily moderated spaces to discuss sensitive topics. I even mentioned that I planned to maintain an alt to access less moderated spaces, just that I also intended to respect the culture and the vibe of Beehaw when interacting there.