Creation is easy, assuming the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics!

Delete prior iterations of the loop in the same timeline? I’m not sure there’s anything in quantum mechanics to permit that…

In the universe where the list is sorted, it doesn’t actually matter how long the destruction takes!

Reminds me of quantum-bogosort: randomize the list; check if it is sorted. If it is, you’re done; otherwise, destroy this universe.

Or Stockholm Syndrome

You’re not wrong, but not everything needs to scale to 200+ servers (…arguably almost nothing does), and I’ve actually seen middle managers assume that a product needs that kind of scale when in fact the product was fundamentally not targeting a large enough market for that.

Similarly, not everything needs certifications, but of course if you do need them there’s absolutely no getting around it.

But how does the alternative solutions compare with regards to maintainability?

Which alternative solutions are you thinking of, and have you tried them?

Rust has been mentioned several times in the thread already, but Go also prohibits “standard” OOP in the sense that structs don’t have inheritance. So have you used either Rust or Go on a large project?

🤷 That wasn’t my experience, and I used it as my primary dev environment for four years.

It doesn’t go through a translation layer, though. WSL 2 has a whole separate kernel. You can even use GUI apps with Wayland.

For what it’s worth, WSL 2 with VSCode is actually great. Almost all the benefits of Linux (I still miss true tiling window management), with fewer weird driver issues.

That said, I generally just use whatever my company wants me to use, and I haven’t worked somewhere that let us use native Linux boxes since 2014.

Modev says they’ve been using C for 25 years, and used Rust for several years as well! Their whole schtick baffles me.

I also hope that some of the people reading this realize that OP is also the person posting all of the “stop trying to suppress C” posts.

Every technology that gets used frequently enough facilitates maladaptation to its faults. 😑

I’m no expert, but isn’t running in a VM strictly better than running on raw metal from a security perspective? It’s generally more locked down, and breaking out of the virtualization layer requires a separate security breach from gaining access to the running container.

Rust feels like entirely the wrong target for that sort of criticism, especially regarding “energy and resource intensity”. Rust is well-known to be comparable to C in its efficiency.

I haven’t told you to keep calm. I’m just confused about you repeating the same points, in the same words, over and over, even after being told that you don’t have your facts correct.

I’m not saying you can’t learn or talk about other languages; I’m confused by the mismatch between your posts criticizing people for promoting newer tech stacks and the ones where you seem to be promoting newer tech stacks yourself.

25 years of experience is certainly enough to have strong opinions, but until your last comment I had the impression that you had a year or less of experience in C, hence my question.

• Why do you keep posting the same rant about “going back to the roots”, especially after multiple people have pointed out that C is not “the roots” of programming?
• Why do you have such strong opinions about a language that you’re still learning?
• If you’re that passionate about C and believe that people should use it instead of newer languages, why do you care about Nim or Nelua?

If you’re thinking of this post, it’s by the same author: https://snac.bsd.cafe/modev/p/1727478537.713206

That’s not a confession, it’s a condemnation. It’s not your fault that universities generally don’t teach this stuff. (I think I had one lab session wherein we used valgrind.)

Why don’t you answer any of my questions instead of telling me to join your club?

Wat