• piefood@feddit.online
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    4 hours ago

    Yes they do. Leftists get votes all the time. Sanders, AOC, Sawant, Mamdani, etc all get tons of votes. Go look at the numbers.

    Sanders lost the primaries because the DNC openly screwed him over, not because he didn’t get votes.

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      Sanders lost both presidential primaries he was in. AOC is a member of House of Representatives. Sawant is on a city council. Mamdani is the only example in recent history of a progressive candidate beating a conservative candidate in direct primaries. I struggle to think of someone else from your “etc” list who also did that. Maybe there is someone. In any scenario, the list is very short.

      openly screwed him over

      “The sun was in my eyes” is also a good excuse. In any regard, he didn’t get the votes. The DNC was also in his eyes, but he didn’t get the votes, that’s what is important here. If he did, if he would get more votes than other candidates, the situation might be different, and the excuse that DNC didn’t go with him even though he’s more popular might hold the water, but that’s not what happened. What happened is he got less votes than other candidates.

      If you voted for Sanders at least as much as NY democrats voted for Mamdani (which is not that much actually, he barely got 10% more votes than the criminal he was against), the DNC would not be able to stop him, but you didn’t, so they didn’t even have to.

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        4 hours ago

        So your argument is “Nu uh. The people who continuously get more votes don’t really count” ?

        lol, k

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          That’s… Did you actually read my comment? What people? More than whom?
          My argument that in wast majority of cases where progressive runs against conservative, progressive wins. And your rebuttal is to list two people who practically weren’t in that situation, one who did and lost, one who did and win, and etc.
          Do you think 4 people are a lot? Do you think a person from a city council is a good example of that wast amount of progressive voters showing an mass? Do you think a progressive candidate losing popular vote in primaries twice in a row is a good example of this abundance of progressive voters you’re trying to convey?

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            I did read your comment. I saw you say that my examples didn’t count, but you didn’t give a good reason why they shouldn’t.

            Do you think 4 people are a lot?

            No, those were just the ones off the top of my head. If you look up the data, you’ll see a lot more.

            Do you think a person from a city council is a good example of that wast amount of progressive voters showing an mass?

            No, I think that’s a good example of leftists voting, when a leftist candidate is on the ballot. You know, the thing that we were talking about.

            Do you think a progressive candidate losing popular vote in primaries twice in a row is a good example of this abundance of progressive voters you’re trying to convey?

            No, which is why I explained that he got screwed over.

            For someone who is accusing me of not reading your comment, you sure don’t seem to know what I wrote in my comments.