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French courts have been imposing disproportionately severe sentences for minor offenses, including 10 months in prison for stealing a can of Red Bull and one year for a homeless boy with schizophrenia caught looting a luxury store. The overwhelmed courts rush cases, provide minimal time for defendants, and prioritize punishment under the instruction of the Justice Minister. Furthermore, the French government is censoring social media and justifying it by claiming to protect public order, but it infringes upon free speech and mirrors tactics used by authoritarian regimes. The justice system exhibits a double standard, favoring the privileged, and creates a class divide, leading to unrest. Ironically, the government compares itself to oppressive nations while undermining democratic principles.

  • bbbhltz@beehaw.orgEnglish
    40·
    1 year ago

    Not defending the judges’ decisions here, but…

    Not Protestors; Rioters and Looters

    These are all very heavy sentences. No arguments from me there. But, tell the story without putting a spin on it.

    Remember that in France it is civil law and judges study the case and make decisions. Lawyers aren’t pleasing cases and objecting as much as in North America like we see in Hollywood movies or on Netflix.

    Cases mentioned:

    1. Guy gets 10 months in prison for stealing a Redbull [Source in French]: Yes. Based on different laws, he was found guilty of looting, among other things. He was made an example of. Harsh. Not his first rodeo…
    2. 6 months for stealing fruit. Cannot find source. Looting, not protesting.
    3. Looting a Louis Vuitton store. 1 year in prison. Homeless guy with schizophrenia. Said he was looking for food.
    4. 1 year of prison. Was found in the store after the looting… picking up the leftovers.

    After giving 4 examples states that he gave 5 examples. Says the courts are “cramming as many cases per day”… Yes, that’s how they do. Makes false claims (says they are told to plead guilty, we can’t know that, says they have no lawyers, provides no proof).

    I’m sorry, but I cannot call this independent journalism. This is just 12 minutes of false connections and misleading or manipulated content. It is not news.

    Fact: the judges handed out harsh punishments based on the current laws because these individuals were caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

    In France, the truth depends on the time, the place, and the context. Judges have to rule based on that. There are options to appeal. But, if it’s 4 in the morning, for example, and you’re in the Louis Vuitton shop checking out handbags on the same night as riots, you’ll get the book thrown at you.

    The guy who made this video could have told the straight facts, no spin, just facts, and it would have been a stronger argument.

    Also…

    Furthermore, the French government is censoring social media

    They have been suggesting that, haven’t done it yet.

    • anachronist@midwest.socialEnglish
      19·
      1 year ago

      I mean every example you listed is fundamentally a property crime. I don’t see how property crimes could possibly translate into such long prison sentences. Unless they’re using weapons and attacking or threatening people it just doesn’t make any sense. “Looting” is an arbitrary definition that seems very ripe for abuse by a government that is already out of control. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE_Om13VpQw

      • FaceDeer@kbin.social
        1·
        1 year ago

        Unless they’re using weapons and attacking or threatening people it just doesn’t make any sense.

        Maybe they are. OP’s linked video isn’t exactly providing detailed references to the court cases he’s talking about.