That’s such a pathetic response, you’ve heard the talking point that cobalt is mined in shitty conditions so that’s your magic handwave to avoid having to actually interact with reality.
Yes that mobile phone you hate has completely changed the prospects of many of the poorest people on the planet, avoiding having to build cable infrastructure over Africa’s complex geography has allowed remote communities to have access to emergency services, education, and all the other benefits of modern communication.
If you actually got involved in projects devoted to helping improve material conditions for impoverished people you’d know all this but of course you don’t, you only care about the kids in Africa when you can use them to score s political point or to avoid engaging in society to a meaningful degree.
Your bullshit is paper thin, you pretend to be so worthy that you can’t possibly participate in capitalism but you don’t have any solutions beside sneering st everyone who is actually making positive changes in the world. You don’t just want to be lazy you want to be celebrated as a moral hero for it.
Where is your solution? If every scientist, engineer, tech, office worker and operator is so evil and stupid for working under capitalism then where’s your solution? How are you going to help all the people in shit situations AND transition away from unsustainable practices such as burning fossil fuels?
Oh, you don’t have anything at all beside platitudes, slogans and snappy memes?
Haha oh wow I love when people tell lies like this! You’re in a 3rd world mining town in an impoverished region without access to drinking water but you can post all day on lemmy in perfect written English?
If your story was true it’d prove everything I was explaining about internet connectivity and mobile telephony.
My grandad actually was a miner who died young just like his dad and his dad before him, back then you didn’t need to venture into the depths of the DRC to find illegal cobalt mines, all mining was a slow death sentence but then technologies changed that. We’ve even started using EAF in steel production so the ecological impact of making things like steel rail tracks is being reduced and coal mining can be transitioned away from.
You think one bad thing existing now is worse than the brutal conditions of the past because you have no concept of reality and how truly brutal things used to be. Comditions are improving in the drc too, there are huge international efforts on going especially formalization of ASM sites to end exploitation and unsafe practices. The majority of cobalt is from LSM sites with formalized safety protection and community support tieins, I’m sure you’re gong to tell me where in the DRC you live do I can tell you details of local initiatives? I mean you live in a 3rd world country that mines cobalt that’s pretty much only the DRC, maybe papa new guinea or morroco, possibly Phillipines if you really want to stretch the definition of 3rd world, or Cuba but then you couldn’t blame capitalism for that mine so I’m guessing not…
Face reality, tech developments improve the lives of people regardless of the system in place - yes or would be nice to move past capitalism and greed based society but we’re not going to do that by living in s fantasy land.
You’re in a 3rd world mining town in an impoverished region without access to drinking water but you can post all day on lemmy in perfect written English?
So you don’t actually know squat about the people you pretend should be “thankful” for your glorious parasite ideology, eh apologist?
Yeah… no surprises there.
You know what we have a term for people over here who pretend we should be “thankful” for the (supposed) “gift” of colonialism - we call you white supremacists.
all mining was a slow death sentence but then technologies changed that
No, you irredeemably useless techno-fetishist - saftey measures organised labour fought and died for changed that. I guess your family was too busy licking the boots of the rich to inform you of that, eh? It would explain a lot.
With liberals like you, who the fuck needs fascists?
For whom? The kiddies who mined the cobalt in your phone?
Riiight… because that’s what capitalism is concerned with - keeping 8 billion people happy. Nothing to do with profits, eh?
That’s such a pathetic response, you’ve heard the talking point that cobalt is mined in shitty conditions so that’s your magic handwave to avoid having to actually interact with reality.
Yes that mobile phone you hate has completely changed the prospects of many of the poorest people on the planet, avoiding having to build cable infrastructure over Africa’s complex geography has allowed remote communities to have access to emergency services, education, and all the other benefits of modern communication.
If you actually got involved in projects devoted to helping improve material conditions for impoverished people you’d know all this but of course you don’t, you only care about the kids in Africa when you can use them to score s political point or to avoid engaging in society to a meaningful degree.
Your bullshit is paper thin, you pretend to be so worthy that you can’t possibly participate in capitalism but you don’t have any solutions beside sneering st everyone who is actually making positive changes in the world. You don’t just want to be lazy you want to be celebrated as a moral hero for it.
Where is your solution? If every scientist, engineer, tech, office worker and operator is so evil and stupid for working under capitalism then where’s your solution? How are you going to help all the people in shit situations AND transition away from unsustainable practices such as burning fossil fuels?
Oh, you don’t have anything at all beside platitudes, slogans and snappy memes?
Oh look… Mister Liberal has turned full-on capitalism-apologist.
No surprises there.
I live in a 3rd world mining town, apologist. Go on… tell me how happy we should be.
So capitalism has been good to poor people, hey? We can’t have healthcare or even clean drinking water - but those cellphones must sure be worth it!
You can take the rest of your wall-of-text apologetics and shove it where the sun don’t shine, you creep.
Haha oh wow I love when people tell lies like this! You’re in a 3rd world mining town in an impoverished region without access to drinking water but you can post all day on lemmy in perfect written English?
If your story was true it’d prove everything I was explaining about internet connectivity and mobile telephony.
My grandad actually was a miner who died young just like his dad and his dad before him, back then you didn’t need to venture into the depths of the DRC to find illegal cobalt mines, all mining was a slow death sentence but then technologies changed that. We’ve even started using EAF in steel production so the ecological impact of making things like steel rail tracks is being reduced and coal mining can be transitioned away from.
You think one bad thing existing now is worse than the brutal conditions of the past because you have no concept of reality and how truly brutal things used to be. Comditions are improving in the drc too, there are huge international efforts on going especially formalization of ASM sites to end exploitation and unsafe practices. The majority of cobalt is from LSM sites with formalized safety protection and community support tieins, I’m sure you’re gong to tell me where in the DRC you live do I can tell you details of local initiatives? I mean you live in a 3rd world country that mines cobalt that’s pretty much only the DRC, maybe papa new guinea or morroco, possibly Phillipines if you really want to stretch the definition of 3rd world, or Cuba but then you couldn’t blame capitalism for that mine so I’m guessing not…
Face reality, tech developments improve the lives of people regardless of the system in place - yes or would be nice to move past capitalism and greed based society but we’re not going to do that by living in s fantasy land.
So you don’t actually know squat about the people you pretend should be “thankful” for your glorious parasite ideology, eh apologist?
Yeah… no surprises there.
You know what we have a term for people over here who pretend we should be “thankful” for the (supposed) “gift” of colonialism - we call you white supremacists.
No, you irredeemably useless techno-fetishist - saftey measures organised labour fought and died for changed that. I guess your family was too busy licking the boots of the rich to inform you of that, eh? It would explain a lot.
With liberals like you, who the fuck needs fascists?
Ha sure buddy, keep the fantasy going and use absurd claims to justify your total lack of an argument.
Are you not embarrassed within yourself?
What? No more walls-of-text to peddle your pro-colonialist claptrap, apologist?
Afriad of further outing yourself as a white supremacist, perhaps?
Most liberals have the good sense to remain quiet when their self-entitled “expertise” gets debunked - but I guess you didn’t get that memo, eh?
You have no arguments left but baseless vitriol, what would I need to argue against?
I’ll take that as a yes on all counts, apologist.
Do you have any more cardboard-cutout arguments to hide behind or are we done here?