• InfiniWheel@lemmy.one
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    9 months ago

    Its only big in the US, most of the planet only sees iMessage as that borderline useless app Apple bundles in their phones.

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      9 months ago

      It’s annoying as fuck when I message my wife a video of our kids, it looks like dog shit on her iPhone. I have to instead send it on Whatsapp or signal. I hate apple

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        9 months ago

        That’s because you’re using SMS, that’s not the fault of the messaging app. Using a third party messaging app is the correct way to go, it’s encrypted, supports group chats, and bigger messages.

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            9 months ago

            Hopefully not RCS, but maybe Matrix or the Signal protocol, as RCS is entirely controlled by Google and there aren’t any FOSS clients.

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                9 months ago

                Specification may be not controlled by Google, but the single available client implementation is controlled by Google and almost all carriers are delegating managing their RCS servers to Google.

                While XMPP or Matrix server you can host even on your LAN network between two computers.

                • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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                  9 months ago

                  With Apple controlling the majority of the lucrative American teenage user base (after all, if all you’ve ever used is iPhone, you’ll probably stick to iPhone in the future; this is what Adobe did, what Microsoft did, and what Google came in to take over, and both succeeded) and an ever growing percentage elsewhere, Apple implementing RCS would immediately sway control over the protocol back the other way.

                  My phone doesn’t come with XMPP or Matrix preinstalled. If I’m going to be talking to people, it’ll be through an app they already have (WhatsApp, in my case, maybe Telegram or Signal) or we’ll fall back to SMS if I barely have any signal. In a group of 30 tech enthusiasts, I’ve seen proposals to switch to Matrix succeed in convincing 5 of them to install a new app. With how inferior XMPP and Matrix apps still are today, I don’t think I’ll have much better luck with normal people.

                  I want either Matrix or XMPP to succeed, but at the way things are progressing, I just don’t see it happening.

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                    9 months ago

                    Apple can implement RCS, but what then? Currently people not using Apple approved device in US can be marginalized. After RCS people not using Apple or Google approved device are going to be marginalized. And they both have wide requirements in order to be approved, recently Google started requiring Play Integrity check. So no RCS after you get rid of YouTube app for example.

                    This is the same discussion all over about defaults like if this was LibreOffice vs MS Office debate.