• GONADS125@feddit.de
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    8 months ago

    The far-right movement has been spreading around the world… It’s perhaps most on display in the US right now, but it is a global threat.

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      8 months ago

      Yeah, the rest of the world forgot about Italy getting a fascist government again REAL fast.

      Same with all the far right people taking over in Eastern Europe, Marine le Pen as president of France being a realistic threat and a lot of new far right parties and movements cropping up (and existing ones gaining power) in Scandinavia, Britain and probably other places too.

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      8 months ago

      I think Germany and Japan are going to have to re-militarize and conquer everyone back into a civil democracy.

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        8 months ago

        I don’t like how we got here but that would be a hell of a redemption arch, does Italy not get to redeem itself?

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          8 months ago

          In an interesting recent development, apparently Meloni (who’s very far right) was apparently integral in getting Orban to chill the fuck out and allow passage of the EU’s military aid package to Ukraine. So as much as I dislike her, I do have to give her credit for that.

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            That’s one of the important reasons that the far-right took over politics in Italy recently, the Italian right is very pro-Ukraine while the Italian left is anti-Ukraine for some godawful reason. Being pro-Ukraine alone got them a significant portion of votes the left would’ve gotten otherwise. Couple that with one of the primary issues in politics becoming LGBTQ rights, with (especially southern) Italy being largely very catholic and consequently anti-gay (in fact gay marriage is still illegal in Italy, you only have same-sex civil unions), and with the other primary issue being immigration (mostly as a guise for racism), the Italian public started voting very right-wing.

            The fact that the left started infighting in Italy and were completely splintered at the time of elections spelled their doom. You can find a similar scenario in some other European countries in the past few years.

            Now that the right is fucking basic shit up in Italy, a good amount of the public has slowly been starting to realize that they liked it way more when the leftists were in charge and making slow improvements, even if it wasn’t perfect… but it isn’t helping much to stop the rise of the right. Italy has always been aligned with highly conservative beliefs, it’s common to miss the “good ol’ days” when Mussolini was in charge and the economy was good, so it’s the norm for politicians to openly say borderline fascist things (well now it’s just flat out blatantly fascist speech).

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              TIL - that’s actually pretty interesting.

              I am consistently infuriated by how far-left political parties have become Russophile/Sinophile/extremely anti-western, for no other reason than “Russia is the successor state of the USSR” (sorta, but not really, if we’re getting technical) and “the PRC is the only true socialist country!1!!one”(lmao no it’s fucking not).

              Like, I’ve gone to rallies in my city run by the DSA and Socialist Alternative, and there’s always some dipshit up at the front with the big fucking Soviet flags with pics of Stalin, Lenin, and Mao on them, and I just want to smack them and beg them to read, like, literally any history on the atrocities they perpetrated. They’re not heroes. Socialism isn’t supposed to be about heroes. It’s supposed to be about equality, egalitarianism, and human decency, rendered through political and government policies.

              It feels like a lot of these groups are actually far more enamored by the authoritarian components of the former USSR, and far less interested in the actual “socialist” aspects - particularly, in the ways that socialist ideas could be applied in western societies that are going through late stage capitalism, but in most cases were able to avoid being subjected to authoritarian “communism” (quoted so because the USSR was very, very far from what communism is actually supposed to be in an idealistic sense, even if you ignore the authoritarian part).

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    8 months ago

    the world is in decline and people want a strong man. i don’t see why we don’t give them one in the form a progressive. why can’t the good guys wield an iron fist too? the problem has always been that good people are weak pacifists.

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      I think there is more to this. Far-Right (at least in Germany) goes along with more of a populistic communication. In my opinion the far-right promises easy solution to seemingly easy problems. But in the real world the problems are difficult and complex. There are few easy solutions and many nuances. But nuances are much more unsexy than populism. Also democracy in my opinion thrives from discourse and spreading the power. Not one person in command. But of course that’s more difficult for society to grasp than one single voice.

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      I agree with your sentiment, and here’s why I think it hasn’t yet happened - a strong progressive leader wouldn’t be beholden to the types of bribery and corruption commonly used to control political figures. So, the corporate media (primary benefactors of the bribe money via advertising dollars), never platforms emerging progressive candidates. One, because they don’t have unlimited PAC money to spend on ads, and two, because they’re afraid the progressive would overturn the apple cart and change the system which presently benefits them tremendously.

      Just imagine how easily a strong progressive could get elected if given 24/7 free media coverage like Trump gets! They won’t get that though, so I think the answer is to organize - we have to choose the right candidate to win, and rally around them years in advance of an upcoming election to get enough grassroots momentum and fundraising in place to break through. No small task, but I’m hopeful this will happen in the next couple of election cycles due to the growing discontent as more people realize just how badly we’ve been screwed and lied to by the establishment.

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      8 months ago

      If VI Lenin was alive I’d write him in. Especially since Stalin isn’t, so he can’t repeat his worst mistake.