Sunday’s successful blockade run could signal to international shippers that it’s reasonably safe to resume operations from Ukrainian ports.

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    The best answer to Russia’s blockade would be a NATO escort. Unfortunately Turkey would need to be on board and Erdogan is trying to play the role of mediator in the conflict.

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      I actually don’t blame him for trying to play mediator, I think that’s a good thing here, because I want putin to think there’s always room to talk even while his army is being incinerated around him.

      But we should send speedboats with the US flag carrying kfc in and out of Odessa with each convoy.

      Ukraine is beating Russia, best case scenario for everyone is this keeps happening slowly enough that putin doesn’t do anything stupid while his empire collapses around him.

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          Well they’ve taken more land back in the last couple months than Russia took in the last year, so there’s that.

          Russia were kicked out of Kyiv

          Russia were kicked out of Kharkiv

          Russia were kicked out of Kherson

          The reclamation of Russian held Ukrainian land in the east and the south appears to be accelerating.

          Russia is resorting to fielding T-54s and T-55s (how embarrassing 😬 )

          Putins support at home appears to be slipping

          Ukraine has the full support of the west

          Russia barely has the tentative support of China

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            You’re being lied to. You need to drop wherever you’re getting your information, it’s all completely false. These are fantasies.

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                Unfortunately they won’t give you any sources to back up their claims, because they are projecting hard.

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                Russia never occupied Kiev, it pulled back after the peace agreement that Zelensky reneged on. Ukraine has lost its last army. It’s over, they have no chance. Good riddance to the Nazi scum.

                EDIT: A lot of triggered Nazis in here today.

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                  They pulled back because the VDV were wiped out in the battle of hostomel airport and because they couldn’t fuel their tanks where Ukrainians kept blowing up their logistics.

                  “Good will gesture” was an attempt by the Kremlin to save face while they shuffled back to Belarus with their tail between their legs.

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      Do you want nuclear war? Because nato and Russia engaging in direct combat is a path to that. I know some US citizens believe that the US has a nuclear missile intercept program so they won’t be affected, but no such system exists and is effective. If one warship fires on another it could lead to a chain of events that kills us all

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        Ww2 started because everyone bent over for the Germans and Japanese, which encouraged them.

        In this case, si vis pacem, para bellum.

        Either putin is sane and pulls back, or he’s insane and war was inevitable.

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          Ww2 started because everyone bent over for the Germans and Japanese, which encouraged them

          This is extremely simplified and comes off as silly. German appeasement was partially because France and Britain wanted Germany to attack the USSR, partially because they needed time to rearm. The US empire had a policy of provocation and containment of the Japanese empire.

          In the era of nuclear powers wars are done with non nuclear proxies to avoid a nuclear exchange.

          WW2 was pre-nuclear weapons. It turns out that changing material conditions makes old responses inappropriate.

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            In the era of nuclear powers wars are done with non nuclear proxies to avoid a nuclear exchange.

            Great, then we’ll give Ukraine F-35s, F-22s, B-1Bs, swarms of Predators and Reapers and be on our way then.

            See how easy it is to proxy war Zelensky right into Moscow with a smile.

            There are no “Rules” to war, people do what they do and you have to be ready for it. Putin made a catastrophic error and we have to prepare for all eventualities, both good and bad, which means para bellum.

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              Great, then we’ll give Ukraine F-35s, F-22s, B-1Bs, swarms of Predators and Reapers and be on our way then.

              Sure, why not? And while we are at it why not some white elephants?

              Also predators and reapers are meant for asymmetric operations where your opponent doesn’t have AA or an airforce.

              If you want to give Ukraine an advantage and continue the bloody war just make more artillery shells.

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            The US empire had a policy of provocation and containment of the Japanese empire.

            We stopped selling them oil and steel, that’s it. After they butchered and butchered China including the rape of Nanking.

            Dude, look in the mirror, you need to live with that person and you’re excusing the crimes of Unit 731.

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              Dude, look in the mirror, you need to live with that person and you’re excusing the crimes of Unit 731.

              1. Not a dude, stop assuming everyone on the internet is.

              2. The pacific theater were two extremely violent empires duking it out.

              A) Do you think the US hasn’t done worse than the rape of Nanking and Unit 731?

              B) The US policy of containing Japan and economically provoking them does not mean that Japan was justified, it is simply the lead up to war between two incredibly violent factions competing over the same resources.

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                Unit 731?

                Show me something we did on that level, not acts of war like bombings, but actual monstrous cruelty on that level.

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                  We’re still doing Guantanamo Bay. Abu graib is another one. If youre looking for direct comparisons. We also went around teaching puppet governments how to torture dissidents.

                  Not to mention that we saved the Unit 731 scientists for their expertise.

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            We’re not over there, and the only help we’re giving is because we’re asked.

            People hate russia, they want our help killing russians. Help we are happy to provide.

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                No, we’re working with China to weaken Russia so we can divide it between us.

                That was the deal.

                China had s choice between a weak and stupid russia as an erratic ally, or a broken russia as a resource depot. They hesitated, but the war in Ukraine sold it.

                The irony is putin started the war partly to look strong in front of Xi so he wasn’t the junior partner in an alliance. The delicious, delicious irony.

                It’s pronounced knee-how btw, might want to practice.

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                Have you spoken to actual Ukrainians?

                They hate Russians, they hate them like… everybody else really.

                Congratulations, Russia managed to do the impossible, unite the world.

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                  Have you spoken to actual Ukrainians?

                  Yes, actually. An ethnically russian ukrainian who fled before the war. Can you guess why she had reason to flee?

                  Congratulations, Russia managed to do the impossible, unite the world.

                  Strange how most of the world is either neutral or supportive of Russia then. NATO countries aren’t the entire world.

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    What a worthless blockade, the whole point of a blockade is to prevent ships from entering or leaving. I wonder if the Russian Black Sea fleet is even still operational.

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    I’ll bet anyone 5 dollars and a pack of smokes that there’s some “Hunt for Red October” shit going on under the water.

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      They are treating you like a child because you are acting like one.

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      Theyre literally down voting “direct engagements between US and Russian military assets could lead to nuclear war”

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        That’s literally the only threat russia has.

        We didn’t let them use it during the cold war because they “well-actually”'d their way through all of eastern europe, EXACTLY LIKE THEY’RE TRYING TO DO NOW!!!

        So yes, I’m enjoying watching Russian kids bleed out on the battlefield very much, thank you, because everyone the Ukrainians leave feeding sunflowers is another one that isn’t threatening the Baltics or other peaceful countries.

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          We didn’t let them use it during the cold war because they “well-actually”'d their way through all of eastern europe

          You know the USSR contained eastern europe that wasn’t controlled by the socialists in Yugoslavia right? They integrated them into their democracy after defeating the nazi collaborationist regimes and the Nazis. They subsidized their economies and those eastern European now nations voted overwhelmingly to stay in the soviet union in the last referendum on the issue.

          EXACTLY LIKE THEY’RE TRYING TO DO NOW!!!

          Seems to me they’re responding to a coup that the US were caught redhanded orchestrating or at least oppurtunistically using a protest to achieve. Nuland and Pyatt were talking about who to put in the government, Russia had them wiretapped and published it, and Nuland admitted it was real.

          Not to mention the wave of violence, the banning of Russian language, etc in the lead up to the conflict.

          So yes, I’m enjoying watching Russian kids bleed out on the battlefield very much, thank you, because everyone the Ukrainians leave feeding sunflowers is another one that isn’t threatening the Baltics or other peaceful countries.

          You do realize you’re paying for that enjoyment with the blood of ukrainian conscripts right?

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            You know the USSR contained eastern europe that wasn’t controlled by the socialists in Yugoslavia right? They integrated them into their democracy after defeating the nazi collaborationist regimes and the Nazis. They subsidized their economies and those eastern European now nations voted overwhelmingly to stay in the soviet union in the last referendum on the issue.

            Which is why they had to constantly attack their civilians with tanks, got it.

            And you know Tito’s response to Stalin right?

            You know the USSR contained eastern europe that wasn’t controlled by the socialists in Yugoslavia right? They integrated them into their democracy after defeating the nazi collaborationist regimes and the Nazis. They subsidized their economies and those eastern European now nations voted overwhelmingly to stay in the soviet union in the last referendum on the issue.> You do realize you’re paying for that enjoyment with the blood of ukrainian conscripts right?

            They want to, and I’m paying for it with my tax dollars, gladly.

            I know this doesn’t make sense, but some people care about freedom.

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              Which is why they had to constantly attack their civilians with tanks, got it.

              They offered Hungary a peaceful settlement, and then soviet officials and random Jewish people started dying and they rolled in the tanks. Did you learn anything about 1956? Do you know how connected the uprising was to the nazi collaborationist government?

              I know this doesn’t make sense, but some people care about freedom.

              Is that why Ukraine is now funding Hitler youth camps? And why they’ve banned all the political opposition?