• lorabe@lemmy.ml
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    Not gonna watch the video right now, but China fulfills every category to be an imperialist country.

    They are expansionist by nature, claiming Taiwan, they use their money to extend their influence, the so called soft power, they lend money to weak countries that want to develop infrastructure with the condition that if they don’t pay the money china gets the infrastructure. That is an aggressive expansionist activity.

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      3 years ago

      not gonna hear other opinions

      gonna stick to my opinions

      Yep, sounds like it. Backfire theory. Learn about imperialism, capitalism and socialism first before making such uneducated comments.

      expansionist, claim Taiwan

      Buddy, Taiwan is a separatist region, not a country. For a state to be a country, it has to be a de jure sovereignty. Taiwan is a de facto state. Ever heard Taiwan declaring independence, or being recognised as a country by a majority of countries in UN, let alone just 15 countries?

      if they don’t pay the money china gets the infrastructure

      Can you explain the 87 cases of debt freed or restructured by China to other countries, in that case? Or are you going to pick on 1 case of Hambantota, like most dishonest people do, where Sri Lankan firm still has 30% shares of the port?

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        Yep, sounds like it. Backfire theory. Learn about imperialism, capitalism and socialism first before making such uneducated comments.

        I wonder how downplaying my figure makes my points less valid.

        Buddy, Taiwan is a separatist region, not a country. For a state to be a country, it has to be a de jure sovereignty. Taiwan is a de facto state.

        You really have to check again what “de jure” and what “de facto” means. Taiwan pretty much enters in the category of a “de jure” state, since it doesn’t force it’s citizens to recognize the Taiwanese law by authoritarian means. Furthermore elections are a given and so far there are no fraud concerns.

        Ever heard Taiwan declaring independence, or being recognised as a country by a majority of countries in UN, let alone just 15 countries?

        This is so close to be a compelling argument to use against the existence of Palestina as an estate, it’s funny how inconsistent some people can get just to justify Chinese expansionist policy over Taiwan.

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          I wonder how downplaying my figure makes my points less valid.

          I wonder how I just pointed out the lack of education on relevant topic domains, and not downplayed your “figure”.

          You really have to check again what “de jure” and what “de facto” means. Taiwan pretty much enters in the category of a “de jure” state, since it doesn’t force it’s citizens to recognize the Taiwanese law by authoritarian means. Furthermore elections are a given and so far there are no fraud concerns.

          Is Taiwan a UN member? No. Did Taiwan declare its independence? No. How many countries recognise Taiwan as a country? 15/195. That makes Taiwan a de facto state, not a de jure sovereignty. Taiwan having its own currency or constitution does not make it a country, but a de facto state.

          Kindly learn about de jure and de facto, and what qualifiers make a state a country or not.

          This is so close to be a compelling argument to use against the existence of Palestina as an estate, it’s funny how inconsistent some people can get just to justify Chinese expansionist policy over Taiwan.

          More countries recognise Palestine as a country, than Taiwan.

          maps

          http://i.imgur.com/FbRry3M.png, https://i.redd.it/2fgbx9hwvox21.jpg, https://i.redd.it/9r2xwvxdw4961.png

          Any more questions?