Seems reductive.

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    20 hours ago

    If they a re not conservative what are they?

    What they are in reality is an extremist, fundamentalist and far-right strain of liberal. Liberalism has always really just been the fig-leaf ideology behind which capitalism hides… but these people calling themselves “conservatives” are really just capitalists that don’t see the need to bother with a fig-leaf at all. Simply consider the behaviour of people like Trump, Musk and all the other billionaires that barely hide their contempt for the working class. They are not true fascists, but I don’t see a problem with people calling them that - they certainly would like to be true fascists but lack the connection to the working class to actually do that like Hitler or Mussolini did. They are just extremely spoilt rich people living in bubbles of privilege… unlike the fascists of old.

    Conservatism itself is essentially a dead ideology - the conservatives of Abraham Lincoln’s time would sound like radical leftists in comparison to the people using that label today.

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        11 hours ago

        Lol!

        Did you actually read what you posted, genius?

        Here. I’ll make this a bit less confusing for you.

        “An economic theory in favour of laizzez-faire, the free market, and the gold standard.”

        Do tell… which of the two formal political factions in the US is most in favour of allowing billionaire parasites (ie, capitalists) to run everything and using the (so-called) “free market” a justification for that?

        The people (honestly) calling themselves “liberals” or the people (falsely) calling themselves “conservatives?”

        Read this part real careful like… political conservatism is a dead ideology.

        You don’t have to believe me - hear it from an actual conservative.

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          Ha ha!

          laizzez-faire! laizzez-faire!

          laizzez-faire isn’t an exclusive tenant of liberalism you moron.

          If youre posting Noah Chomsky youre talking about NEO-CONS.

          Its been 10 years since the GOP has unmasked themselves as authoritarians and youre living in a fucking time capsule.

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            Hey Buddy, if you’re throwing around pejorative insults on the Internet, you’ve already lost, But you do you sweety.

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            laizzez-faire isn’t an exclusive tenant of liberalism

            Ooooooh… do tell, genius - what other ideology is so blindingly loyal to the capitalist mode of production?

            Monarchism, perhaps?

            Is there a particular reason you don’t want to admit what liberalism is and always have been?

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              10 hours ago

              Is that what the current iteration of the conservative ideology believes???

              Crony capitalism is not laizzez-faire

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                    8 hours ago

                    Right, right… the (so-called) “free market” would never allow capitalists to act in a concerted way to dominate it, could they? Because… erm… reasons… something, something, “invisible hand,” something, something.

                    Tell me another one, liberal.

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      14 hours ago

      Yeah and “Democrat” used to mean you liked slavery. The meaning of words (especially regarding political ideology) shift over time.

      These people are conservatives.

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        12 hours ago

        These people are conservatives.

        No. They’re not.

        But if you really wish to continue flattering them, feel free to call them “conservatives” - it informs them that their pretense is still working.

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            10 hours ago

            You seem very desperate to pretend that there really is a big difference between liberalism and (so-called) “conservatism.”

            Are you a liberal, perhaps?

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              10 hours ago

              No, im asking you if fascism isn’t the appropriate description of what “conservatives” believe what is it?

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                10 hours ago

                I’ve already answered that question for you… your reaction suggests you’re a liberal that didn’t like what they were told.

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                  10 hours ago

                  You’re reaction is that of a decomposing corpse clinging to ideas that were only relevant 30 years ago.

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                    9 hours ago

                    Soooo… you’re just another liberal that doesn’t want to accept how right-wing your ideology truly is.