Just idea that they expect growth where there is none is strange. This business are at the limit and have no way to grow faster than economic situation of many people around the world gets better.

Sad part is fir them it is better to destroy service trying to increase growth in meaningless ways, than to just find a way to keep the business that is working.

Idea of infinite growth is ruining us.

But that is always happening. Software that now can be built by two programers needed IBM few decades ago, just because of hardware, languages, available libraries and shared knowledge.

But we still have so many “app ideas” that there is more work to be done. I would be happy to have AI write all those apps that I need and have no time or money to make them.

My conclusion is that it is only about money and economy. We are in unofficial recession so everyone is cutting costs, as soon as money comes back we will go back into bulking/exploration phase.

I don’t know about game dev, buy SerenityOS guys are flirting with Swift.

If it wasn’t from Apple, I would be all over it. They basically took different languages and most of C++ devs made fastest advance in Swift. Rust I do like and support, but is too confusing for amout of free time I have.

Maybe an error?

Error would be if they removed GMaps or Gmail from Play store, this is sabotage.

Play store is 99% some kind of scum, but they found open source app that community likes and is providing service comparable to their app. Yeah, right.

If they don’t want us to call it sabotage, they should be extra careful about apps that are providing same service as them.

Sadly we don’t have huge choice. I think gpodder wirks on windows: https://gpodder.github.io/ and does the job.

I never understand hate ladybird and SymphonyOS is getting in fediverse.

People are doing interesting work against all odds, everyone ever just saying “it is not possible”, finding some random comments from project founder to hate.

But you know what? You and your opinion is not important. People are not doing this to make Linux competitor or Mozzila competitor but to have fun and learn something new.

I also don’t want apple near it, but Andreas learned browser development on Safari and with looking for “popular enought” memory safe language it is rust vs swift and just by looking at the code becomes obvious how easier Swift is to pick up. Especially for someone comming from C++.

Haters gonna hate, I wish them luck. Failing is ok too.

It really depends on your needs. 3D printing community is very satisfied with FreeCAD, and GIMP is great for my needs when I need to find a way to increase visibility of some features in drone images and than make python script to repet it hundreds of times. No way I could do it in in PS. Making it run under wine already takes too much time.

And it is not only about money for license but about freedom.

I always see coments like this, and while I appreciate sharing of experience it is just being boring. At least add something specific and don’t be a bot.

They are not PR people, don’t expected that of just normal people having fun. No one is promising “chrome killer coming in six months”.

Thig is that for SerenityOS they want to make everything from scratch, ssh, ssl, libraries, utils, text editor… even the browser. They could have just porr Firefox, but that was not the point. To use it you had to complile whole OS.

But since browser got some attention and sone complex sites (like guthub and twitter) started working in it, to make project more viable they are dropping this constraint for browser. I guess they migt use some gui library, ssl lib, codecs… stuff like that. But, I expect, they will not use others code for rendering engine and js, but continue with implementation from documentation.

While some in this thread say they are racist, homophobic and stuff. Maybe some are maybe just not polished for public speak, do we really think everyone in google is totally clean?

It actually exists and is being developed for the last three yeras. But you have to compile it by youself. Just a way to prevent people from having expectations, but a lot of modern sites are working in it. Some errors, a bit slow, but they have rendering engine, css parser, js implementation and are working closely with w3c - they have found some bugs in the standard since they are implementing it directly.

Great and useful project, I don’t know if it will become real competition to firefox and chrome, but I guess it will get traction. A lot of people want new browser, some of them have money.

It still costs money for hardware and hosting. Scraping web and training AI ain’t cheap.

First thought is that you need to do that research aa soon as you move to the new house, change your insurance or job.

Second is obvious, strange county you have over there. But I guess most of the people are satisfied with that, as with paying for school.

My GeoTIFFs do not agree.

This is just what is visible to users/customers which is just top of the iceberg.

Real use of AI is in every industry and best use case is for jobs that were imposible before.

AI has been paying of for decades, it is used in all industries for appropriate tasks.

Now it is even better we are doing stuff no one thought it could be possible and advancing our work.

Perfect use case is for things that are simple to do but take too much time to be economical for humans (ex. counting products, plants, trees, cars, disease detection…) and using additional data to make better decisions.

Generative AI (for writing text, coding,… ) is of course no where close to being useful, but it can interesting to try. It is just a toy, expensive one, but still a toy.

I think at some point we will have to introduce human confirmation from creator side.

I don’t mind someone using chatgpt as a tool to write better articles, but most of internet is sensles bs.

Bing bought GPT4, connected it to internet and have integration. But only works from Edge or from their app so I haven’t tried it.

I can only guess that they want to eliminate hallucinations befor offering it to wider public as search.

I like the idea of Mozilla providing, even thou it can just be rebranding, some privacy concious services. Like reselling real private VPN, email, storage… with their brand.

This thread reminds me of stackoverflow, most people are just convincing you in something else and it is obvious they have never been in your (and mine) situation.

Just answer question if you have some idea, yes we know python exist, that’s nice, but not an answer to this question.

Here is some explanation from firefox dev from two years ago https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/md63k4/comment/gs8mo2t/

The answer is complicated.

Mobile operating systems don’t have swap space. When running multiple apps, a mobile OS needs to be more aggressive at freeing memory than desktop operating systems do. They do this by terminating background processes. The OS uses various heuristics to decide which process(es) to kill.

The problem that you’re seeing is not intentional on our part; there isn’t something in Firefox that says, “unload everything whenever I go into the background.” Instead, it is caused by the content processes being terminated by Android itself.

We know that Chromium-based browsers seem to be working better in this regard. We do not yet have a clear picture about what specifically is causing our content process to be a frequent target.

We’re in the process of collecting additional telemetry to help us diagnose this. I’ve also landed a patch that helps to clean up content process memory usage when Android tells us that it needs memory, in the hope that it will reduce the likelihood of a content process termination. We’re also testing Nightly with multiple content processes enabled, which may help.

At any rate, I wouldn’t call this problem an intentional design decision, nor would I call it solved. We’re doing what we can to learn more about it and get it fixed at some point.

Sounds to me android is by design letting chrome based browsers and killing everything else.

Sounds to me it is MIUI that kills a lot of stuff for me all the time, I also don’t know how to prevent it.

One way I do is start that other app first, than open needed tab in Firefox and do quick switch between apps. In that way FF is not reloading page, not Bitwarden but might be similar.