That the worst linux distro would be vastly better than windows (not that mint is the worst, that’d be manjaro)

honestly it isn’t much to learn but the returns are very diminished if you’re already on a linux distro, I mostly make this recommendation if you’re just starting out, if you’re perfectly happy there isn’t much need to switch, but more up to date software, kde over cinnamon, and immutability are huge advantages for many people.

like, just for an idea of why kde is better for beginners, the kde text editor alone gets more code changes than all of cinnamon combined per month, and by a lot. Kde is always rapidly improving.

basically on aurora you just use discover for all software and updates and don’t even need the cli, it’s pretty easy to learn honestly, and if something goes wrong that a simple google can’t fix feel free to message me I do free infinite linux troubleshooting.

here’s a copypasted post I made on mint and beginners "A lot of people are going to recommend you mint, I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

The mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lxqt is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix."

Ah, so it’s not that you want it for any functional purpose, you just think it would be cheaper, understood.

I have 15 years of experience and do free infinite troubleshooting on matrix, feel free to add me. I recommend you go with aurora, because it is immutable, kde based, and well documented.

immutable means the base system is read only and updates are applied ontop of it, meaning you can easily roll back an update that went bad, and the apps are separate from the core operating system and thus can never break them (unless you try really hard).

kde is a desktop environment, it is most similar to windows and the rate of development dwarfs almost everything else, please whatever you do for your first system use kde.

aurora is a slightly modified fedora and fedora is one of the most commonly used options, the reason not to use base fedora is that aurora includes some QoL features, for example because of issues with patents twitch doesn’t work on fedora but does on aurora.

My thinking is that having a desktop, laptop and phone that sync data to eachother accomplishes all of that and will do it better because they’re designed for their usecase, why not that?

Why though?

You probably could with a phone

Thank you I really appreciate your kind words.

Fedora is not preferred because there are legal issues surrounding patents, this makes it so that if you want to, for example, watch a twitch stream… it just won’t work.

bazzite and aurora have fixes for this built in, which is why I recommend them over raw fedora.

don’t do kubuntu, it is a terrible place to start for beginners. I don’t think we should be recommending ubuntu at all, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place.

The mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

theres also the fact that ubuntu ships very out of date software… among other things regarding privacy concerns, snaps being terrible, just don’t.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

If you don’t like the gaming stuff try aurora, feel free to message me on matrix.

Relevant post I made:

A lot of people are going to recommend you mint, I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

The mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lxqt is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

TBH do you actually think that there’s some chance that nobody is testing these releases and this is happening to a massive number of people?

I’ve installed linux countless times on a SHITLOAD of computers and never faced any of these problems, realistically, you’re very unlucky, and these sorts of things happen with windows all the time too.

I’m not saying your issues don’t matter, but unless you have statistics that back you up, you can’t say “it just works” to either OS.

I’ve had more of an “It just works” experience with linux literally hundreds of times.

I just need steam\proton\wine to support native wayland and then I’ll remove xwayland from my system, can’t wait

i’m on hyprland though

New hyprland patch can do pretty much all the xdotool stuff since they added a send key to window thing

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Yo just for the record you made your life so much more difficult installing skyrim that way and not through steam\proton, even if you were pirating.

i have 15 years of experience and do infinite free linux troubleshooting on matrix if you want some help

I do question your moral choice of putting flavor above killing

To be clear, I do not. What I’m doing is morally wrong, in fact, it’s morally terrible, but I do it anyway.

Did you choose to eat meat?

Yes.

What’s your logic?

There is none, I wholly accept that it is entirely illogical and unethical. I am addicted to the flavor. If I could have the flavors and textures without the killing i would switch in a heartbeat, however.

Which animals?

Any so long as it is delicious. Even human as long as the human wanted it and was not killed for the meat.

Would you eat dog?

Yes. It’s no different than pig in my eyes.

These questions probably don’t work on me because I was raised in a vegan/vegetarian restaurant as a child.

What does eating the same foods you grew up with have to do with it?

i try all new things even bugs, but some foods I grew up with are delicious

I don’t agree that he’s a nazi but he did some pretty heinous things, like tricking these people into writing this horrible sign:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/2/13/14605060/pewdiepie-disney-deal-lost-nazi-anti-semitic-imagery

and he did a hard-r on stream.

I don’t think this qualifies for being a nazi (he doesn’t advocate for an authoritarian dictatorship or a protectionist economy, nor does he want to scapegoat a group for all of his countries problems), but it is awful, racist, and disgusting.

But I don’t really care if people do call him a nazi, to be clear, it’s probably more effective messaging anyway.