• Loom In Essence@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m looking for an interaction with the artists. I do not care what an AI produces… and I don’t care what a marketing team or boardroom of producers produces. I’m looking for an artist’s vision.

    • hark@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Then hollywood is the wrong place to look. AI can make it even worse, but hollywood has been mostly devoid of expressing artistic vision long before AI came around.

    • Rodeo@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      I’m looking for an interaction with the artists.

      How exactly are you interacting with them while sitting on your couch looking at a screen?

      This is an appeal to purity argument. You’ve invented some higher standard (that doesn’t really even make sense) with the purpose of excluding the thing you don’t like.

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        1 year ago

        The audience responds en masse by tuning in, paying up, being changed, perpetuating the ideas back into the culture through the filter of their own personality, chatting about the thing, praising or criticizing the artist.

        This is an appeal to purity argument. You’ve invented some higher standard

        Nope. It has absolutely nothing to do with “purity.” It has to do with humans doing the ancient human thing of making art. Dancing, singing, telling stories. You’re bringing in the abstraction of purity.

        Hollywood (in its crudest aspect) is already an AI algorithm for churning out trash. That’s why I tune out already. Because it is not humans telling each other stories. It is pure corporate manipulation. More AI in the hands of producer-goons just means more corporate manipulation and less humans telling each other stories.

        AI in the hands of an artist is a tool for exploring and creating. AI in the hands of corporate goons is the total opposite.

        • kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          That it’s an entirely subjective experience and to presume that someone’s enjoyment of it means that a human had to be involved in It’s creation is such a ridiculous response.

          Have you ever seen the paintings that one chimpanzee made? They’re actually pretty nice in composition. Am I allowed to like the way they look even if no human made them?

          • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            So long as it’s not a glorified machine learning program designed to commit mass fraud and copyright infringement, then yes. Until then, go cry harder.

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              1 year ago

              I’m going to think back to people like you in 15 years and smile at how naive you were.

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                1 year ago

                No you won’t, you’ll still be sitting in front of your computer having gotten nowhere in life because you expected AI to solve all your problems for you and you couldn’t see it’s just another corporate grift. Like any sucker.