A US appeals court Saturday paved the way for a California law banning the concealed carry of firearms in “sensitive places” to go into effect January 1, despite a federal judge’s ruling that it is “repugnant to the Second Amendment.”
The law – Senate Bill 2 – had been blocked last week by an injunction from District Judge Cormac Carney, but a three-judge panel filed an order Saturday temporarily blocking that injunction, clearing the path for the law to take effect.
The court issued an administrative stay, meaning the appeals judges did not consider the merits of the case, but delayed the judge’s order to give the court more time to consider the arguments of both sides. “In granting an administrative stay, we do not intend to constrain the merits panel’s consideration of the merits of these appeals in any way,” the judges wrote.
Story incoming…
When I was about 12 my family, a long with my uncle, went on a camping trip in Gorman California. The sun had just gone down and we had a fire and we’re listening to the radio. My mom was in the trailer with my other siblings and my dad, uncle and I were heating up hot dogs by the fire.
These 2 men walk up to our fire out of the dark and sit down and start being super belligerent and creepy. They have knives and who the hell else knows what. They demand beer and hotdogs. My dad, asks them to leave after giving them both a beer and dog. They don’t and keep getting more aggressive. They start talking about things like coming in to the trailer and what what else they can have.
My uncle starts to get brave and tell them to get the fuck out. They don’t like that and become more aggressive and get out their seats to hurt him. MY Dad tells them he has more to drink in the trailer. He walks into the trailer and walks back out with 2 hand guns and points them at they guys and tells them to get the fuck out or die. I’d like to say it felt heroic seeing him do this, but I was so freaking scared out of my mind. The men leave and you can hear their motorcycles start up and they drive away.
Earlier that day my uncle kept making fun of my dad for being his guns. And telling him he doesn’t need them. In the end, we absolutely did need them and it may have even saved our lives at most.
I don’t have a moral of the story here. Just a story. I don’t carry in public. I’m not even a huge gun guy. But I have one. And it goes with me camping.
It doesn’t make sense to do all this at once: hate cops, hate guns, and be unable to defend yourself.
That’s just asking to be taken advantage of by those with more power than you. Expecting people to do the right thing is an innocent and childish view of the world.
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Good story, thanks for sharing.
But the fact of the matter is that, in situations like this, guns are really only needed because everyone else could have guns. There’s a perpetual threat of gun violence. That’s what makes the US such an unsafe country for kids and adults alike. People in other developed countries don’t have to think this way when they go camping and I’m very jealous of that.
I never understood why the Americans have to carry a weapon at all. I can understand (to some degree) to want to own a weapon (to defend your home from other people with guns, going hunting, shooting cans, etc. pp), but to carry it outside while doing normal things like shopping, dinning, watching a movie?
Americans believe they live in a post-apocalypse where a shootout could start at any moment.
Self-fulfilling prophecy.
Congratulations! You are privileged enough to believe that everyone lives in a modern day utopia in which nothing bad can ever happen to them so why would anyone else feel the need to protect themselves.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/europe/prague-university-shooting-intl/index.html
https://apnews.com/article/london-new-years-eve-boy-stabbed-6400e7e3b1fa0e7d7d2ab3669c48278c
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/four-children-mom-found-dead-christmas-day-france-rcna131184
Some carry while camping, on road trips, etc. Situations where you’re likely to be alone and emergency services would take a long time to respond.
There’s also plenty of paranoid or insecure people.
For robbers, rapists, kidnappers etc. They show up while doing “normal things” …so.
It’s really a very very small minority of Americans who are like that at all.
The worst part is that they leave their guns in their cars and then they get stolen and used in murders and robberies. The people who conceal carry are usually not the people you want doing it anyway.
Because you can’t rely on cops to protect you and can’t expect regular people to forego violence if they believe it will get them what they want.
Statistically, guns don’t stop crimes, they just make them worse. The “good guy with a gun vs bad guy with a gun” is nothing but a fantasy.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/251894/number-of-justifiable-homicides-in-the-us/
In 2022, there were literally only 463 justifiable homicides in the US. And that’s with all weapons, not just firearms.
Gun carriers are not stopping crimes, they’re just playing power fantasies.
Note that only covers homicides, the criminal died. Guns can save people from going that far as well. Everything from yelling, “Don’t come here, I have a gun,” to showing it, to firing and wounding or missing the criminal isn’t in that statistic. One FBI statistic a few years ago put it around 2-4 million instances of defensive uses of guns that year.
Statistically you’ll never be mugged, raped, or murdered, so why do anything to prevent any of them?
Imagine, if you will, a law that restricted your right to free speech on any public property, or on any private property that didn’t affirmatively give you permission. Or religion. Or any other right. Sure, you have the right to free speech, but only in your own home, and not even online unless your ISP specifically says it’s okay, and not by phone unless the phone company gives permission. You okay with that? If not, why would you be okay with this?
Let’s just finally accept, for God’s sake, that guns in general cause more trouble than safety.
Can’t comprehend those of Americans constantly sticking to their guns.
